Okay..so you all remember my oneitis problem..yeah I am so over that..but what my question is about has nothing with the game to do, just want your honest opinion after all..that is the reason of me beeing in the forum.

Anyway..ive been thinking what I could have made so that I lost intresst in her, even if she acted phony and fake..there must be something to trigger that behavior in my opinion..you might not share it, but she went from sweet and tender to Ice queen, in 1 week..befor she used to come up to me at work just chat around about anything and everything, you know when you hold hands with a girl you have her fingers crosses yours..and she is basicly happy with you..and beeing around you..Anyway how can from very intressted turn to ice queen..gets me wondering I have a few ideas of my own..but if I find them true..my world is going to change, and I mean a person which ive trusted all my life will forever be a traitor in my eyes.

Here is what I think.

Anyway as I've said befor..I have a real close friend..he is like a brother to me, ill always have his back like family no matter what he does..even if he's the reason for all of this mind confusing shit..he's my friend I am going to be there when he needs me to.

Anyway so everything ive done for this girl and every plan ive had or claims ive taken I told him..what is puzzeling my mind is do you guys think there is a chance that he told everything to her every single detail of my game plan..so it would backfire on me for self winning?

as ive pointed out befor, he had like a crush on her when I was gaming her successfully and actually making great progress, then it went BOOM cold nothing after a few days, and by then he spends like his break times with her, and when I step in the room for anything there is this awkward silence which immdiently takes place, I think my own mate is doing something to really make me look bad..when I say really I mean he is lowering my value so bad behind my back..its affecting more then this chick..if we for a sec just pretend this is all true and he is doing this trying to fuck me up..behind my back and I would want to fight back in the same way without making it obvious of my intentions, and scheemes..I want to burn him back..and quite frankly I am bad at these things..sure ladies are no problem they see me as a fun guy with awesome ideas and conversational skills, but I for one want to play his game and not fool around with trying to be honest and talking to him, threaten him and even try to make him reveal it, I now see him for what he is a fucking snake..hate people that are fake, and he seems to be the one that has been fucking my game up and making me look bad.

Anyway, the scenario is I am outnumbered and out gunned, what I have for my advantage at the moment is my social skills and dont-give-a-shit attitude..weaknesses will be trust..I tend to trust my friends..wierd huh?

His strengths; crowd controll, group leader, two faced.

Weaknesses: Beta male, weak minded, go with the crowd mentality.


So guys, this is more important then any girl ever, its time to fight fire with fire.

B

ill put in my two cents. Ive had a friend who was dating a sister of the girl i liked, and i had let him now certain things in confidence, and then all of a sudden the group of our friends started to not like me, and the girl and her sister avoided me at all costs after the sister supported me. So its quite possible he has stabbed you in the back. You might be able to be upfront about it and confront him, and put him on the spot about this. Mainly in this scenario the more you fight the worse you look and the farther the girl is pushed away, and you may lose a friend over a girl as well which should never happen

I know the fact that making my game plan on this to obvious will set me off looking bad, and fucking the shit reaal good, therefor I am going to be sneaky like him but since I am not best at these things..beeing behind the back sneaky mofo, I need advice on how to be more like..uh yeah him. I dont want the girl I want to burn him, to show him betrayal is not accepted.

If I lose him as a friend so be it, we had a good run.


B

Well, if an AFC gets a huge crush, it may fuck you up. Of course, he may have not backstabbed you, I don't know. Simply ask him seriously and he will tell you. If you find out he lied, well you know what to do.

"If a friend betrays you, don't worry. You lost something that was worthless anyway, but he lost piece of himself."

Carpe Diem.

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Your right, Paeter..awesome mate, but as I see it..he will burn himself..hehe was kinda pissed last night over a bunch of stuff, but time to get to work, outgame him just for the fuck of it, just for fun, I am going to lay his "Crush" then be over with it, to teach him a lesson, I will do everything in my power, to use and dispose someone he seems to "Love" never play with fire you might get burned, plan has been set in motion and so far its working great.

What ive done is;

Totally ignored the chick, I mean absolutly pretend she even is'nt in a room when I enter talk about shit you only talk to your friends with..nothing to private ofcourse I am not stupid but to give her the complete neg of them all.

And it payed of big time, did not even taken more then 1 hour of it befor she was runing after me, which got him a bit pissed, and ive also started gaming one of her friends, well just beeing a complete nice guy to her friend, going the back door in on this one, her friend will mention me and how great I am, thats for certain this in its turn will make things more intressting if everything goes as planned, by saturday I will lay her, who knows if I am fast enough id get a shot with her friend aswell, that would be awesome but thats more of a secondary objective.

furthermore alfa male position has been set, due to a few events which took place, I made him DLV himself without even understanding it, which could been seen as a bit unfair, but I am going to teach him a leason and thats dont fuck with me, ever.

So I controll the set as of today, my way or the highway, and it was aknowledged by him in the group.

I also know why she is beeing cold, its not my friends fault to a 100 % its my own, I basicly told her bros over hoes at a party, told her I would not do anything to jeoperdise my friendship with my AFC mate, but I cant be sure..humm opinions on this one could this have been a set back which I myself caused?

Maybe. I'm glad it worked. If you make a sudden change of behaving to any woman, she will find it interesting and will chase you. I got women running after me and thinking about me just by saying "Shut up." Try to be friendly one day, little grumpy the other one. Girls love unpredictability.

Anyways, now you see that the friend may not have backstabbed you, try to get him back. OK, make him pay, if nothing more than for ignoring you. My opinion is - get him back. As Style said, "Bros before hos!".

And all of you, remember this lesson. Backstabbing is huge DLV.

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