Hi All,

For those who didnt see my first few posts... I seem to be having no problems securing dates with women I meet but on the dates I'm lacking in the keno area. I'm not sure if it's just because I've never really done it before or if I'm missing the point.

Can anyone recommend a post/guide that outlines basics to advanced techniques? I searched here but got a bit tired after page 6 lol.

Cheers,

Kino Ideas and Rules- I'll pull some Mystery literature for you. "Remember with Kino that nothing is ever a big deal. The AFC goes out on a date in hopes that he will get that goodnight kiss, and making a big deal about it. This is a standard occurence to the PUA and should be treated again as "NO BIG DEAL."

If the moment of your first kiss is weird and awkward, it will probably also be your last kiss. Women are very unforgiving about htis sort of thing. They have a fantasy about meeting the right guy, about how perfect it will be, about how evertything will happen so naturally, and how it will feel...so right. And the truth is, with guys who have game, that's exactly how it does happen.

When things go down the right way, there never is a "big moment" when you go in for the kiss and "Make it happen." ~Instead there is a natural flow of kino from the very early stages of the set that leads all the way to sex.~It should be seamless: a series of small, naturally executed moments, few of which ever stick out in any remarkable way. She feels like its just a natural connection. Thus the kino begins in the early stages of the set and escalates from there.

Little hints and touches start us off and then it becomes more. It then becomes a snowball affect, until its on between you two. The pacing of escalating kino is import, not the physical touches.

While you run your game there will be windows of opportunity to Kino escalate. If you miss a window it then DLVs yourself. Her patience will wear thin. Always assume that its on, until you can calibrate it to "just so."

Forms of Kino:

Arm in arm
Hands touching
Embracing
Embracing from behind
Kissing lips
Kissing or nibbling on neck
Hand on Knee
Sitting on Lap
Arm around waist
Touching face
Smelling or pulling hair
Hand on ass

DON'T MAKE EXCUSES. Don't be wimpy about touching, be natural and confident. Touching is one way alpha males like to demonstrate their domincance.

While doing Kino. If you get any sign of hesitation of defiance, take two steps back. One forward, two back. Then step forward once again. For eample, if you take her hand and you sense any hesitation, throw her hand away. Later when you take it again, she will comply more readily. That created more discomfort by you throughing her hand away and now she will go one step forward.

This comes from Mystery's Book: How to get beautiful women in bed, copyright 2007. chp 7. I think he says it best and easier for me to copy and re-write it all. Okay I've taken my legal disclaimer out now.

Hope this helps!

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That makes things a bit clearer actually. So would you say that in terms of meeting somone on a first date situation for drinks - for example you meet them on Myspace or Facebook, go for drinks if you instantly take control and walk straight up to her with quick hug and kiss on the cheek, then from the get go they know your more of a touchy feely person?

Is the key to goto places where you have a small chat then you walk around abit so that gives you time to kino escalate?

I'm thinking in terms of a coffee shop for example, if you're both sat in chairs theres not an easy way to get in to make contact without it being contfrontational as shes got nowhere to move.... unlss the kino is given more as a gesture in speech to emphasise a word, or punch line of a joke? saw Mysery do this and it did seem to work. Possibly its just experiementation.

I've certainly found after my first sarging session that my confidence is a lot higher with the tought in mind - "Well whats the worst thing she can say, No, get lost, etc etc" as long as I have a line ready for those fine. Its the same when I performed street magic, and so I've gone back to basics about approaching and this has cleared a few points up

Thanks again J

Alright, you are on the right path we just have to get you down it now. "Follow the yellow brick road!" LOL, okay seriously. Yes if I had met someone online, I do that frequently, as soon as I meet I hug her to establish the touchy feely person type.

In a coffee shop, I may do the cube, mystery's ESP, or a few other routines and find a way to do kino during that. For example, I may hold her hands as I do Mystery ESP. First off, don't sit across the table from her. That's confrontational, as it is. Try to sit next to her. For example, if it's a square table sit at a 90 degree angle to her at least. This way you are in close proximity to do your kino, and it's more of a "us" feeling than a "you and me" feeling.

I may hit her arm to emphasize a joke or if she snaps on me some. A little hitting is a good thing, and shows you're comfortable with her. Before you know it she'll be lightly hitting you back, kino pinging.

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