Okay so I picked up this girl at a party with a couple of lines I learned from this whole pua thing and it worked like a charm. I call her a couple times then a week later take her on a date, then back to my place and fucked her. all was gravy then....

I think I fucked her too soon. She was like I barely know you. Then like calling me a player and I'm like no girl "we just got caught up in the moment."

I spent 5 hours with her before fucking her and she started trippin now and now I don't think I can fuck her again. I wish that I would have taken her on like 2 more dates and then I could fuck her all the time.

I want her to be one of my MLTR's and I don't think it's going to happen now.

Any advice on when to f a girl. How do I know I'm not doing it too soon. I mean she was all over me before we fucked she even jumped on my lap and was grinding all over me so I thought I was good but apparently not.
Now we are "better as friends"

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Ummmm, hate to say this bro, but it sounds like maybe you didn't please her in bed.

I mean, it could be something else, but that's my first thought.

By what you say, she WAS ready. There's no problem with that. And the time frame actually matches what you should expect too.

So, that might be an area to look at. Just be honest with yourself about it. That way, if you do need to improve there, you can work on it. It's nothing to be ashamed of. A LOT of guys need help in that area. But anyway, if that's not it, it could just be something going on with the girl. Some girls are just like that.

It was ok in bed. i don't have a problem there. She just wasn't ready for it. When we were having sex like 10 min. in she said "your just like everyone else?" I think everyone fucks this girl and she was upset because I fucked her too. She wanted more. I think she wanted me to be her boyfriend.

If she said "You're just like everyone else" WHILE your having sex . . .

And, she wanted more, and you said you wanted more because you wanted her to be one of your LTR's . . .

ya she wanted more than just some dude fucking her on the first night and now I don't think i can fuck anymore now I don't know if I should try to fuck a girl on the first date... Do you think I should still try to fuck girls all the time or wait or how do I know when is too soon?

The general time frame is about 7 hours of comfort building after you meet the girl. That can be done in one night, or over a couple of days, or anything in between. Some girls go quicker, some take a little longer. Each girl is different and you have to calibrate that.

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FOLLOW IT believe me its going good. Just handle it right now she's confused and this is when you can make her think what you want her to think.

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this happend to me a few days ago too.

Try taking her out somewhere where sex can't really happen (on some sort of 'dateish' kind of thing. make sure it's fun) Then don't invite her to your place. drop her off back at hers, and let her go with maybe just a kiss. this might stop her from thinking that you're only in it for sex. make sure to build plenty of attraction while out with her

then next time.....open table

That is absolutely correct! you need attraction thru m1 to m4. You will break the ljbf zone to fb by m4. I will teach my method soon to the community. Its real simple but if your new you will be amazed haha. Remember ATTRACTION and follow my method

Artist Method

d1 or m1 A+S
M2 A+C or C+A
M3 A+C
M4 A+S+S

In between you also need phone game.

p.s remember dont fuck her agian untill day4 if you want to continue fucking her sometime it takes more than day 4 tho. You need to build alot of attraction untill she cant handle it no more. Artist

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Artist:
Did you learn your own method in the great amount of two months that you have been part of the community?

The 'Common Method'? M4?

Do you understand that it is called 'M3' because there are three seperate parts of the equation? A-C-S. It does not equate to 'days' or encounters.

Wait till day 4 and then it is ass all of the time... That is silly. You need to learn what the M3 model is first before you can use terms that are part of it and just throw in 'A's all over the place.

You obviously do not know it.


64dartsb:

After you got some, you became AFC. You want her as a LTR (You need to have more than one for it to be MLTR) and she felt this. I am sure there is something you said that you are not even thinking about. You need to hold your frame strong even during the lay. You even got the dreaded 'LJBFs'. That is the dead give a away.

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dude, if she's saying yr just like everyone else 10mins into fucking her.....ur DEFINATELY doing something wrong. My guess would be u didn't biuld enough sexual tension. Biulding sexual tension is imperative.

personally i am always reluctant to F-close a target unless it's a ONS. For me this is a part of my screening process. Not F-closing the target is a DHV in my opinion. It's sending the message that u aint desperate and that u are choosy who you fuck.

Making clear statements of intention with kino will keep the liasion out of the LJBF zone. use a push/pull strategie to ramp yr target up to the point where she's highly aroused.....or even begging for it. I've experimented a bit with this, ramp them up, them pull back, as if u kinda lost interest. I'm always looking for girls who are open to broadening their sexual horizons, so i usually like to broach the subject of anal, S/M, fantasies etc early on. I'm always gauging the targets potential for 'indecency' LOL

much depende on yr age andexperience, i'm in my 30's now, so vanilla sex is kinda boringfor me.

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You probably aren't that good in bed, cuz you really shouldn't be to fucking that quickly. No biggie, it is easy to get good at. But that isn't the real problem.

You may of lacked good or any sexual tension, but I don't think that would cause this type of verbal reaction.

Here are the three things that I think could have gone wrong to cause this reaction:

1. If you brought up the topic of a relationship or anything like that. Then then
2. I personally think from what I read you didn't qualify her enough or at all.

3. Also I think there is a little bit of...mentally or emotional unstable inner game on her side.

Honestly, seriously. If you believe your game with her is over, I would just ask her why she wants to just be friends. Don't be afraid to DLV yourself
Remember, that she will probably lie, so you need to read inbetween the lines most likely, and try and hear what she isn't saying (if that makes any sense)

Maybe by saying something like "So if we are better friends, maybe you can tell me why? Was I bad in bed?" (Honestly I think that is what it is, sometimes 2 people just don't click together man) Think of it like kissing. Everybody has their own style of kissing, so being a 'good' kisser is all about responding to that style. So generally when a girl meets a 'good kisser' it's either because they are, or their styles just mesh together. Some people like to open their mouths a little more, use a little more tongue. Whatever it's just a style of doing it. Sex is the exact same way. Try and keep your ego aside, and maybe actually question if you can improve yourself in that area. in fact I bet at least 60% of men probably can. It's not like you have to admit it to anybody else but yourself. That is why the internet is great, you can learn in private how to become a better lover without getting to embarrassed.