HAHA..god. I just got back from a frat party that we(the pledges) through and it was KICK ASS party...i was the bar tender and busy talking and meeting ppl left and right. I seriously couldn't ask for more social proof.

When i say "i got" ...i'm taking into account heavy IOIs. I got ...let me count...6 off hand girls all around me...touching me...etc. Ranging from hb 5.5(pretty face but bad body) - 8.5 (where everyone thought she was BANGING). I'm not sure if it hurt me ..but the 5.5-6 was ALL over me..and wouldn't stop telling me "lets make out" so i finally made out with her to make her go away and it worked after i didn't want to kiss her again.

I'm just REALLY bad at transitioning. I ACKNOWLEDGE the iois..but i still don't know what to do next...i have heavy kino going...i know that much. But ...how the fuck do you get things hot and heavy to the kiss close? Seriously...i was leaning back against the bar...leg up on a chair with this girl in between my legs playing with my necklace and shirt..

All i was thinking at this point was...'change up eye contact..hold longer/shorter glances...make sure like you're half there, but what you have to say is more important kinda..although i did respond to her b/c i'm a natural listener haha. What the fuck am i doing wrong? The girls usually just lose attention after awhile. I don't know how to make it more intimate..idk.

Also with conversation...basically talking to this girl for 15 min about frat hazing and whatever. I was intoxicated...but i didn't think i was fucked up enough to be out of it really. Any thoughts?

any thoughts?

Have you tried asking them if they want to kiss you?

It's really cheesy but it works, at least until you get good at knowing whens the right time.

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"With ignorance and arrogance, success is assured."

Dude, she was READY to be kissed. All you had to do was cup her face in your hands and put her lips on yours.

Or, if you don't have the balls for that, like ray said, just ask. But, I would do it in a way that doesn't sound like I'm seriously asking if she wants to kiss. Making it sound like I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Or, you could use something to similiar to Mystery's approach of saying "you're driving me crazy, I want to kiss you so bad." Might sound cheezy, but believe me, it works.

godddddd youre good

Dude, you have no idea . . . lol No, seriously man, thanks. I'm just trying to help.

Man, you should see the guy when he's running game!

...No, I'm serious, you'll totally change your opinion then!

Hahahah, J/K, J/K! But I really do need to get someone down there to see how good he is in the field so I can calibrate for our showdown.

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~ Rye

LMFAO. Calibrate ALL you want bro. Ain't gonna help . . . .