I hope the title will catch attention. I want to make this clear that this is not a cry for help, suicide note, or anything of the kind. I am an emotionally stable person.
That being said:
Can anyone honestly tell me that they are happy? In the town I currently live in, I have honestly not met a peer that could tell me they are happy. Talking in a hot tub with some of the most beautiful and popular girls in my school, one girl said something that scared the hell out of me. "I'm not like depressed, I'm just not happy." Everyone else there agreed. I have begun to game girls only to end up realizing that they have attempted suicide and hurt themselves. I read an article in a magazine about emo people as a trend. For the most part, the quotes were from another girl in my town. Suicides and drug overdoses are quite common. There hasn't been a year when less than two people have died. This year four died by their own hands.

At this time in 2007, are we just under a cloud of despair? OR Is my town the exception? I know this isn't really game related, so mods, feel free to drop this into the misc. if you feel its necessary.

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and I think... I think too much

It's just the depravity of the human condition.
Everyone is at odds with their own existential journey
until they find something worth living for.

But maybe that is too deep for a pua forum.

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"There is no great genius without some touch of madness" - Seneca

Not too deep at all for the PUA forum. In fact, this is the very essence of the seduction community- being able to be happy with ourselves, being able to accept ourselves for who we are, regardless of what outsiders say.
This trend you speak of, this mass dispair that is expressed through increasing suicides, the goth and emo community and yes even by increasing numbers of AFCs and social zombies, are all caused by our lack of image and direction. We are a generation born into chaos, and unable to find stability within ourselves. We are used to being given a direction by others, but as there is no one to give us a direction we are left wandering aimlessly.
Ever watched the movie fight club? Essential material for any PUA, I think.

Are you happy? What will make yo happy? Do you even want to be happy? Mystery touches on this subject a lot, and I worship him for that, but I doubt most of you catch on to it. Wonderful example- Mystery, a man who can jump in a hottub with eight gorgeous women, go party with ten others and sleep with three more without thinking twice. Any man would think he is happy. But is he?

Happiness is to be found inside, not outside. And when you have that inner fire you could call happiness others will see it and they will come to you wanting part of it.

I'd love to continue on this subject, only I fear I've given most of you enough to think about already.

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Anyone can walk into a bar and pick up a random girl.
The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

I have noticed this to be a very true scenario. But I must say, I can honestly say that I am indeed happy. I really do enjoy my life. Hell, Monday happens to be one of my favorite days of the week. Mostly because it is an opportunity to meet new people, try new things, ect. I look at every single day as a chance to better myself. I do not fail, I just learn. But like I said, there are many people in the same situation that you described.

But I have just one question:


Are you happy?

im happy when im around people i enjoy being around, i hate when i have to work, but thats life, thing is i hate my job so its a downer, and when i get home i stay in that state until the days over, thank god my last day of work is sunday and im done with that job

then i can focus on bettering my life and enjoying it one day at a time

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A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

Hey, welcome to the boards, and in my humble view this is not to deep for a PUA forum. After all the PUA method relates things from varying social sciences, philosophy being an intricate portion of it. Fortune, I do concur with your statements.

Threadstarter, it depends on what ages the girls are. If they are late teens - to early twenties than I can fully understand where they are coming from. Covered this in pysch class before. Usually this leaves after a while.

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i lust for jessica alba, but now since she is preggers. I am lusting for Nicole!!! It's New Year's Day. It was Ben Franklin who said, "Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each new year find you a better man."

Am I happy? That's such a relative question, but in the context of everyday life... I would have to give an emphatic YES! I've got to admit, much of it is because of the skills I'm learning from the Pick-Up Arts. The strides one makes in pursuing these things, as we have, does wonders for self-esteem. I'm not talking necessarily about the ability to pick up girls, but the things at the heart of this whole process. Once you really internalize things, you look back at your old self and wonder(at least in my case) why you never realized your potential. Why you always felt down on yourself.

I'll agree with you and the views of our world as a drab, dismal place. I look around and see unhappy people. I look at them like I look at my former self and wonder why they don't see their own potential as people! The things we could do as a society of empowered individuals...imagine it. Ok, I'm starting to sound like a motivational speaker here so that part is over.

In anycase, I'm procrastinating again. But after I put the finishing touches on my project, and head outside for a cigarette while I watch the sun creep up over the hills tomorrow morning... I will look back on my sleep deprived week, this post, and the weekend ahead of me full of sarging opportunities. And you know what? I'll smile, because it all makes me happy. Damn, I am a weird dude... oh well, I'd never give it up to be 'just like everyone else'!

Our new way of life, if you will, as PUA's is a true blessing.

~Muse

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That's how I feel right now, but I'm going back to school next September and I'm not gonna stop until I have a Masters in Psychology and then I'm probably gonna be a sex and relationship therapist. Use the stuff I learn in school in PUA and use the stuff from PUA in school and work. You just have to find something that makes you truly happy and that you can imagine being able to lose yourself in and do for the rest of your life happily. Then just make that your job somehow. I like figuring out how people work and fixing where they're broken (including myself, which is why I'm here), so I wanna do that for a job too. Nothing better than being paid to talk to people about their fascinating problems all day.

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Thanks.

A person's 20s are supposed to be a little rough.

And you guys are right, PUA does fit into an aspect of philosophy.

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"There is no great genius without some touch of madness" - Seneca

Missed this post before. Good old teen angst! We had a close relationship until I decided I was an adult and then it basically dissappeared because I couldn't afford to feel unhappy about life anymore.

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White Rose, I love your posts. The question of do I even want to be happy hits so close to home. As a child I know at one point I made an active effort not to be happy. I moved to a foreign, xenophobic country. As a form of protest I refused to enjoy anything. In my early teens, I refused to let myself be complacent with my life, which I must have confused with being happy as I was miserable as well. However, at this point in time, I'm not complacent, I better myself everyday. I'm social (but want to be even more), athletic, on a successful track in life, and have attractive girls in my life. Yet once again, when I imagine myself as depraved, conflicted, and hopeless, it appeals to me. That doesn't make sense.

Does anyone else wonder if other people have more intense emotions and sensations? I hear soooo happy or that feels so good, but I don't feel anything that intensely. I little of topic, but I never asked anyone and I wonder if I am alone on that one.

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and I think... I think too much

If you’re into PUA I would say you’re more likely to be unhappy as you no doubt spend more time thinking about life in general.

But you’d have to be a brainless idiot if you were continually happy. I am almost never happy, but then I don’t believe that it is realistic for someone to be happy for the majority of the time. I think people assume they should be ‘happy’, especially if/when everyone else around them seems happy. That will just highlights the feeling that maybe you’re missing out.

I have a few friends that are continually smiling and seem to be enjoying themselves. Yet if I have a privet moment with them after a party or outing and I ask them if they had a good time, they usually say something to the effect of ‘Meh, It was alright I guess’.

Life is difficult, its not a music video, and when you realize that you can deal with it and be thankful for what you have got. Just ensure you cling to and appreciate the good moment when they come along.

You just sound like a very negative person and I can't imagine that going well with being a pua. You might manage to attract girls and close them, but then they're gonna realise you're constantly unhappy and that's just gonna destroy anything you try to create.

I'm personally happy a large portion of the time. I may not be skipping around singing about sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, but I'm still happy. What is there to be so unhappy about? You're learning to make yourself a great person that everyone want to be around and that can take control of the world around yourself at will.

The only thing that really makes me unhappy, is my job, but through positive thinking and nlp, I've been able to make my job much more enjoyable. Its all about how your frame of mind. If you're constantly unhappy, its just gonna stay that way, if you're happy and positive and keep that a constant thing, then life becomes so much better.

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Yeah, I've been doing a lot more thinking about life in general as a result of this PUA stuff. But like I've said before, it helps me look around and see how different I feel from those around me. It gives hope.

I think you and I definitely have different perspectives on happiness. I truly am happy for a majority of the time. I really think it comes with inner game, and seeing that 90% of your problems in life are fleeting. Sure, money is tight right now, I don't have much free time anymore, and my best buddies from HS are gone 9 months out of the year to go to school... but I've got plenty of other things I can look to for happiness. It's all in your perspective.

~Muse

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I think I was looking at the term ‘happy’ too literally. I mean
on the whole my day is pretty mundane. I wouldn’t really describe myself as happy when I am cooking, or watching TV or whatever... would you guys?

To clarify, I am not a miserable person. I am a very well rounded chap. If I must describe my state as anything, for the most part I am emotionless. Which I would say is the pinnacle of inner game.