Meh. I've paid a good two grand for products. However, I never spend money sight unseen for anything over about $30. I think 60's Game revision system was the most expensive thing I ever just paid for without seeing it. And only because a slew of people were recommending it.

There's way too much stuff that sounds like it has potential, only to lay a big fat egg. Kezia's 10 Hook Lead System and Vin Di Carlo's Pandora's Box, come to mind. And everything from Mark Manson outside of Models. Same with Carlos Xuma. Good product descriptions, bad products.

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Not saying I don't pirate stuff myself.

But to use excuses that the guru has to be extremely ugly and handicapped for the content to be paid for is just some justified BS excuse.

That's like me saying that I will pay for an online business course - only If the guru started from zero in the bank account. If he already has £200 in his account then he can't be legit, thus, I will pirate his stuff instead

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I would pirate your boot camp or PU products too. You mad?
I really like Mystery despite not following MM or routine. I like rsd but this shit storm makes me want to stay far away or watch the channel from a distance. I like AFC Adam but he is married and i heard suspicion of a divorce?

Justin Wayne has been called on paying someone as has other people. I think looks plays a huge factor. Hell, I have seen naturally great game from people who do not even do cold approach PU. I could just hangout and learn from them and figure out a more genuine approach to meeting women that does not include paying thousands. I think what annoys Pebble and others like him is that, I got the same content as him, I just was smarter by not paying for it.

I would like to quote Jeff jarret "the thinking man's wrestler!"

Lol at the pirating stuff. "Be a man", "Give value", "Leave her better than you found her", "Be authentic".... .come on...being cautious is one thing, but if you download something that actually helps you, put some money in the guys pocket instead of being a thief. If you get a service, pay for it. People complain about how sneaky the guru's are, well when you find ones with good content support them after you've realized their torrented stuff is actually good.

Joe. Try to keep up, I get pirate stuff too, I will admit that I did it because I didn't want to pay for it and not just insert some BS justified excuse to give you the moral high ground that because "every guru uses actress'"

Also, since you're throwing it out there that you're smarter than me etc, you will know that if you pay something, you're more like to apply to get your money's worth because you're invested into it ? . If a noob paid £600 for an online boot camp. He is more likely to get involved rather than move onto the new pirates mental masturbation theory and learn threesome NLP game or some other crap.

Take you're still butt hurt about the NLP thread? U mad dawg?

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Some of the worst "PUA Fatigue" shit ever produced, now that was the worst $10 Ive ever spent.

Its already been established that most of the stuff in PU is rubbish. Companies have been outed for their lies and paying actresses. There is things called torrents. I have the internet. I feel absolutely nothing when I download something. I am actually downloading more shit right now as I type this. Its funny that people get mad. If America was smarter with their money, there would be no bail out necessary but, keeping up with the Jones and throwing money around for shit that could be ripped for free is what people do.

You make it sound you're the only person that has discovered torrents.

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PUA stuff has the unfortunate happenstance of generally being low quality for a high price due to the thin market. I recommend finding ways to recompense those authors and creators which actually offer a valueable product, which is the small minority.

This is what I'm talking about. Cautious and cheap are too different things. When you dl something that's actually good, send the guy some money.

from your reactions, it would sound like i was the first man who found fire. I torrent the fuck out of a lot crap I do not intend to buy. I ripped Antifragile too. I see the value in free content. I would only pay where no alternative is present. Posting that I was using torrents was not intending to make grown men cry. I will choose my words next time to prevent another emotional moment.

Exactly. It is usually something stupid yet, marketed slightly different to make it look scarce.
Yeah and since we are on the topic; instructors should send women to my house following boot camp to suck my dick and feed me grapes from a hammock. It should be like as a child getting a free toy with your happy meal.

Loving the frame war. Not going to sleep with you bro. Won't work. (see what i did there?)

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Beware: I ripped quite a bit of torrents today. There was quite a bit of tears the other day when I first posted. Stock up on tissues (for crying not yanking or you chain which could be avoided with successful pulling) You mad (again)?

Cool story

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