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While you guys are rambling on and protesting (which is useless on this forum), all of my friend's boyfriends/fiancees/husbands (except 1) foot most of the costs....without any complaints. Most make significantly more than their partners, too.

So, don't speak to me, speak to the men out there in the real world.
If a man can afford these things without risking his financial security, he won't complain. If it is a financially straining and he doesn't complain, it's not that he isn't complaining...he's just not complaining to her.

And that's the men my advice goes to. The men who don't have the balls to do so.

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Assertive, I have yet to meet a man who earns little and is footing the bill above and beyond his means. Because I haven't. If I dated dudes that were low earners, they'd voice their opinions.


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Assertive, I have yet to meet a man who earns little and is footing the bill above and beyond his means. Because I haven't. If I dated dudes that were low earners, they'd voice their opinions.
Now you missed Jack's point.

By the way, if you are letting the man foot the bill, don't complain when the man is being dominant and making all the rules. He thinks of you as property. You can't be touting your "i'm independent woman" crap and expect him to finance your life. You have essentially agreed to his financial help and if he is domineering, I won't feel bad for you.


Just look at the relationships between a woman and a sugar daddy. That's all you're setting yourself up for in the long run. If you want that, then its legalized prostitution but that's all I call it. I won't make fun of sugar daddy's but the dynamic is just that. Prostitution.

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You're extreme.

Paying for a date or two isn't property.

If you give your buddies birthday gifts or pay their drinks, you also consider them your property now?

Like always, Assertive taking things to the extreme. Making minority cases the majority. Same with the bastard child support- blowing them out of proportion.

Assertive, tell me, why would a career woman rely on a man? Wasn't that the point of her getting a career in the first place?


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You're extreme.



Assertive, tell me, why would a career woman rely on a man? Wasn't that the point of her getting a career in the first place?
I was talking about your friends and their husbands who foot the bill all the time. You have been complaining dating such men and I explained it to you in a way that makes sense. And idk you tell me why a career woman would bring up such a thing. Which is why this post was made in the first place.

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With 30k a year, you simply cannot afford a 3k vacation. I've been there, some of my friends are still there. 1k is a stretch for many nowadays. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from.
Maybe because you live in Romania, 30k seems like a God send. But it's not. Not if you want to live in a good and clean low-crime area, decent transportation, a decent insurance, rent/mortgage, student loans, and the rest of life.
Fine, take my example and divide it by 4. It was merely a means to illustrate a point.
If 1k is "a stretch" for most to spend on a vacation, then a vacation should not make their priority list.
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And the point R.C. was making is that if the man says we are going on a vacation YOU can afford, then be okay with it being split down the middle.

If you complain "but but I want to go to Bali!" and it is clearly out of your price range, you have no business suggesting a trip which you clearly can't afford.

on the other hand, if the man wants to go to Bali, then yes, it would be unfair to you to pay down the middle. It goes both ways in the end. Look at the bigger picture here.
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While you guys are rambling on and protesting (which is useless on this forum), all of my friend's boyfriends/fiancees/husbands (except 1) foot most of the costs....without any complaints. Most make significantly more than their partners, too.
I don't know why you think examples from your personal life are relevant. In some countries of the world it's considered normal to molest kids. You coming over here saying your friends do it does not make it right, acceptable or otherwise valid. Anecdotes are not valid.

Besides, the problem you seem to have is that you think women are or should be entitled to a man's salary. I never look at money when I spend it, be it on dates, vacations, your drink or whatever. Right up until you start acting entitled to that privilege.

That's the point, there's nothing wrong with supporting a majority of the costs as long as you can easily afford doing so. But you have to be deserving of that.

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I don't necessarily think a woman is entitled to a man's money.

But if she makes significantly less, I think he should help her out if he's a good guy. The same for a woman. If she's supporting her partner who let's assume, is going through medical school, then yes, she should foot most of the bills if they plan on being long-term.

I just think it's ridiculous how some men enjoy bragging about how successful they are, yet when it comes down to the real deal, they back off.


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I don't necessarily think a woman is entitled to a man's money.

But if she makes significantly less, I think he should help her out if he's a good guy. The same for a woman. If she's supporting her partner who let's assume, is going through medical school, then yes, she should foot most of the bills if they plan on being long-term.

I just think it's ridiculous how some men enjoy bragging about how successful they are, yet when it comes down to the real deal, they back off.
We can agree on that. As long as the receiving party is deserving of it.

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I don't necessarily think a woman is entitled to a man's money.

But if she makes significantly less, I think he should help her out if he's a good guy. The same for a woman. If she's supporting her partner who let's assume, is going through medical school, then yes, she should foot most of the bills if they plan on being long-term.

I just think it's ridiculous how some men enjoy bragging about how successful they are, yet when it comes down to the real deal, they back off.
We can agree on that. As long as the receiving party is deserving of it.

Word on the deserving part

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I'll sound cheap as fuck, probably the economy is different where I live but I don't spend nearly as $50 for one women.

Max $10 - $15, and that's if we're going out clubbing or something. Have in mind I'm a full-time student so...

Sometimes at parties when I meet some girl and the gang wants to head to the club, I even tease women to buy me something to drink, some push-pull and they do. Not always, but I believe I'm great at building comfort and sexual tension so they can't resist but trying to impress me or something (of course, I always compensate later).

Like Eddie Fews said, think like a woman act like a man.

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I spend less than 20 Cross lol. Don't feel bad.

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A person that has more money will not mind spending more money.
So for students, it's understandable. But once you hit a decent salary, you might be okay with spending more ;)


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A person that has more money will not mind spending more money.
So for students, it's understandable. But once you hit a decent salary, you might be okay with spending more ;)

Still though. Like Assertive said, I never spend money on movies, etc. God forbid restaurants. Drinks and bars only.

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A person that has more money will not mind spending more money.
So for students, it's understandable. But once you hit a decent salary, you might be okay with spending more ;)

Still though. Like Assertive said, I never spend money on movies, etc. God forbid restaurants. Drinks and bars only.

Lol. Dont mind her Cross. She already agreed money should be spent on girls who deserve it. Just girl logic going on the carousel.

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Assertive, be assured, now that I'm actually on my own 2 feet so to speak, I am proud that I can shell out my cash at a good restaurant for two without hesitation. Now I can afford it, before I couldn't.


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