Exactly. Same thing goes for spontaneous. A girl drinks a shot of tequila and dances on the bar, thirty guys going 'Wow, you're so spontaneous!' What they mean is 'I want to fuck you, you look easy'. A true compliment is a) genuine, b) personal, c) specific, and d) concise. Calling a girl hot, spontaneous, or something the like fails all these criteria. Compliments formulated like 'I like you, you are x' are an improvement, but they still lack the personal connection if you don't mention how 'x' has affected you.

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One of the most useful things you will ever learn about body language.

I know that negs and insults aren't good. And cheap compliments do little good either. It's better to show an interest in them and be interesting without insulting them or complimenting them.

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Theres a big difference between saying you like a specific quality in a person and simply saying you like them.

Saying you like a certain thing is sort of "ticking a box"...what she needs to know is thats not the only box on your list, and generally stay away from saying you like her appearance.

Again, her style/fashion sense is something different to her ass/legs/tits...

Compliment them on something they have control over/have made a decision on, also saying you "like that qualitiy in a girl" makes it easy for you to transition to other qualities you like, get her to qualify herself on those,gage interest and escalate.

the place you are coming from, approval giving vs approval seeking

The two main complaints I hear from girls are 1.) guys can't hold a conversation 2.) impatient- like they are trying to "force me"

Think about it. Think about the herd. If you see a pretty girl the easy thing to think about is she is so hot, hot hot hot...so hot. The girl hears this all the time and it is obvious. Also, if she's hot other guys are certainly rushing to get in her pants.

you can be upfront and direct, but don't be stupid. It easy to delude yourself when you want something as bad a pretty girl. Don't do things because you hope they will work; go by evidence and reason.

And honestly, I think telling a girl you like her gives her power.

I never tell a girl that I like her. And if she asks: "Do you like me" I tell her "I like you as much as you like me" Then continue gaming.

Telling a girl "I like you." Gives her a world of options on how to reply "Awww you're so sweet (please put me higher on a pedestal)", "Awww I like you too, you're like the brother I never had (Friendzone)"

Woman will know you like them, when you qualify them, because you want to know if she's worthy of being with you. She'll know you like her when you kiss her, or whatever. They know when guys like them. Much better than guys knowing when the girl likes them. We have guides for reading and spotting IOI's. They know it. Like a spider sense that goes off

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In my opinion, you can tell a girl that you like her. What is important is how you say it. If you say it in a needy way it might come off as desperate. When I say it to girls I just met I usually say it in a nonchalant way like "Yea I like you, you're a cool girl." Just like how I would say that to anyone.

As long as you don't meet up just to announce to the girl that you "like her", it should be fine IMO.

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There are different subconscious signs girls pick up depending on what the situation you put her in when you compliment her.
1.Direct opener- her mind:He thinks im hot and he is confident, I could have sex with him fast.
2.Direct opener after the intro- Bla bla, just wanted to meet you and tell you "insert compliment". She sees he was faking at the start but he is brave to confess. Giving her some power overal in the conversation.
3. After rapport: She gets what she wants, a verbal statement as a sign of interest giving her the power.
4. You allready know her: Gives her extra confidence.
5. Dating
6. Sex
7. Girlfriend
8. Friendzone
too sleepy to continue but you can see the point. Compliments are great but sometimes they are best left, if your game is in no need for it.

The point in complimenting them the first time you meet is not about giving her value, its about speaking the truth about how you feel towards her. This might not be the best thing, if you allways want good results.
Think about it, if a 6 or a 7 comes to you and tells you she thinks ur hot, wouldnt you start looking at her in a more sexual way? Think about it, if she would just pass by she would have little or no chance of you looking at her in a sexual way. If your still not interested you smile and walk away a happier man.

When complimenting a girl it is important to keep a seductive eye contact if your intentions are to be known. But this is risky you can come out as creepy. Im just in the starting stages of testing, but what I hope to expect is quick YES or NO, verbal or nonverbal, without getting too creepy or weird, awkward I allready am. I want to quit the bullshit restraint im under, I feel wrong, I am allways myself around people who know me and it may be time to start speaking my mind to random girls.

I always wanted to compliment for two reasons:

1.) Its pleasant and the girl likes you for it.

2.) She already likes me and want to show interest so I don't miss out


The problem with compliments are:

1.) There is no Fear. It removes fear that she could miss out on a good guy. You give her the power to accept you or reject.

2.) There is no doubt. It removes the doubt that she can't get you. People, like HBs, with big egos like to prove themselves.

3.) No Value. It something she already knows so it has no value. It may even be annoying.

4.) No teasing. If you compliment her you can't tease her because you leave her feeling completely satisfied.

1. You need to learn to deliver a compliment. A compliment doesn't hinge on accepting or rejecting. That has nothing to do with the compliment. You simply say it because you notice it and believe it not because you are trying to score points.

2. Just because you compliment a woman doesn't mean she should at all think she owns you, this is what happens when you come from insecurities (worry about her thinking she is better than you based off the compliment), those with confidence can say compliments with such confidence that it is simply because you felt that way. Those with self-confidence know they come from value so they don't worry about a compliment raising her status above you.

3. If you are an intuitive male who recognizes the "key" part(s) of her ensemble you can seriously make yourself look different, different is good. Your reading her decisions rather than her aesthetics and complimenting her choices is the best way to compliment. You can make yourself valuable by being a rare gem who notices that stuff. I know I've used things like that to my advantage, in fact one of my strengths is recognizing what SHE VALUES, which creates immediate rapport and interest.

4. You can tease a girl you compliment, who says you can't? I will compliment a woman and tease her within a few moments. What kind of ridiculous thought process is this? You really need to learn to widen your style if you can't compliment and tease a woman.

Those who don't know how to compliment are those who have been let down by them. Those who learn to compliment and read people well can create a lot of rapport in a very short period of time.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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There's nothing wrong with telling girls you like them.

Maybe it's the way to tell them so.

For some, maybe action speaks louder than words but telling your partner what you like or what you feel is another thing.

It boosts my confidence when I heard someone telling me how badly they like and want me.

It's very cool when words and actions can be used in flirting with the opposite sex.

I demand an apology. Your post is a personal attack. You imply that I don't know how to deliver a compliment. You imply I am insecure. You imply that I do not have self-confidence. You imply that my thought process is ridiculous. Your entire post implies that I am incompetenet and inferior and I want an apology.

I apologize if you think this was a personal attack, it wasn't at all a personal attack or meant to be that is, it was meant to be argumentative regarding your outstandingly false statements. It wasn't a personal attack at all, you are taking it personally (VERY DIFFERENT), I write as if anyone who reads it can feel as if it is talking to them. In fact the fact that you demand an apology and took it personally says a lot about your inner game, you took it as if I am above you, I in no way feel that way. This is a forum where we all come to have a conversation, this includes arguments.

I will not allow you to start rumors regarding compliments, you are incompetent when it comes to compliments OBVIOUSLY. Don't state things as facts when you are ignorant regarding them. This isn't me talking down to you this is me saying it how it is. If you heard my tone in person you wouldn't be offended, hearing my words negatively in your head says some things. Go work on your confidence if you need an apology over something this mundane and you honestly NEED an apology you have some things to work on, this is now fact. Good luck with your confidence, it does requires a lot of work. I'd be more than happy to help you if you need.

Don't take things so personally, it is a huge mistake to attach yourself as a person to words regarding your behavior (it really is just your ego). I rebutted your words for everyone not to embarrass or hurt your feelings.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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You said all those things to insult me and you won't take responsibility for it. Look, you have different views than I do, but you can't seem to stand my mind. Tolerance think about what that means.

Now I asked for an apology because your statements were somewhat slanderous and I want a recantation.

It is time to get blunt.....

Do you honestly believe you are important enough for me to waste my energy insulting you? We aren't talking about different views here, we are talking about your 4 false statements each one was rebutted separately. False statements are false statements, a view is but a perception not the truth.

I apologize for offending you, however I don't apologize for stating the truth, and I certainly won't recant the truth. I'm a grown man, I expect others to act as if this a place for grown men where we can talk to each other in a forward manner.

Here is a very difficult statement to swallow: NOBODY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FRAME EXCEPT YOU! Nobody affects you except you, not me or anyone else, now if you allow me affect you this is showing that you don't own your own frame, you should never ever allow anyone to affect you.

Another Difficult statement to swallow: THE TRUTH HURTS.
When your beliefs are proven false it hurts, it hurt(s) me when I realize(d) my beliefs were false and I certainly understand how hard it is to be called on it but that doesn't mean when someone says I was wrong that I take it personally, there is no reason to.

The place of measuring statuses or worrying you won't be a challenge, statuses, etc. are all the beliefs of a low confidence/value man, I understand it, I had no self-confidence for a long ass time, but since I have gained self-confidence I stopped worrying about all that bull shit and I do very well with women. There is no worry about whether I am a challenge or whether I am good enough, none of that exists within my mind. This should hold true in yours as well, but it takes time and work to get to that point, that said well worth the work to get there and stay there.

Now if you think I'm not tolerant of beliefs you are wrong, I'm helping people by letting them know by disqualifying those statements by being pretty direct no doubt but not really brutal, simply blunt. Should I choose to let it be ok for you to lie to all these younger guys who may be clueless? Should I think it is ok for you to come on here and spread bull shit through out the forum? No as someone who's been here for 5 years why would I let you spread these false statements around the forum.

Your behavior, your emotions, and your words, have shown a lack of confidence. I pointed out what I seen, the fact that hurt you created these ridiculous emotions within you only proves my point about your insecurities, your insecurity about what your forum reputation? Who cares? You know how many people attack me and my thoughts on this forum? It doesn't matter it is simply an argument.

I want you to realize nothing here is personal, half the time I have no clue who I am rebutting against. I apologize that you are offended but my words were not offensive to people most people, and they certainly weren't a personal attack. I re-read it 3 times, read it to 2 other people, none of us feel it was a personal attack. Truthful statements can feel very personal regarding beliefs, that doesn't make them personal attacks.

A personal attack would be my talking about you, your name, signature, who you are, but not about your false statements.

Here is a tip: This is a forum we argue with each other, since you are very new, don't take it personal and learn to listen to people who have been doing it for a while.

Most people don't know how to compliment, I see it all the time. In fact I'd say 95% of people don't know how to give a true good compliment, you shouldn't take it negatively if you don't know something. See it simply as constructive criticism that you can improve. Rather than saying all the meaningless things you've said, maybe you should have asked how to deliver a good compliment, or why that mindset is poor. Listen to the experienced people if you want to get better faster rather than fighting back against people who've been there and are trying to help pull people like yourself out of the situations and beliefs we've already realized wasn't actually true.

As I said if you want help with confidence I'm willing to help just ask me and I'll give you some exercises and coaching. This isn't about me making money for me dude, it's not about thinking I'm better, this isn't about me hurting people, this isn't about make me look good, it is simply about showing the truth to people and helping them. The attitude you are spreading isn't helping, in fact it is an unhealthy attitude and belief system when it comes to compliments.

Once again Sorry for offending you but I won't recant my words, they are too true, and too many guys think that is the end all be all when it in fact is completely absurd to think those thoughts. I genuinely was not aiming to offend or hurt your feelings.


Peace and Love,

Vic

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