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Dang Chief didn't realize you had became a super moderator on the forum. I haven't checked this place out for awhile. Yet I wanted to ask you a question and hopefully the answer will help the new guys out a bit. How would you best describe the feeling a freeze out should give a girl?
It's like all :( :( :(

I don't actually agree with using significant freeze outs. It's like pushing a woman out into some snow when she's naked.

Hmmm... not that bad of an image. Anyway, she's left feeling confused and disoriented. The reason a freeze out works is because the woman desires to go back to a comfort zone where she can interpret reality as something that makes sense.

To combat LMR, I'd recommend just making sure that the she feels safe in all ways. Check out Vin DiCarlo's theory of Objection Game.


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It's like all :( :( :(

I don't actually agree with using significant freeze outs. It's like pushing a woman out into some snow when she's naked.

Hmmm... not that bad of an image
you should write porn.



Cocky funny is meant to break rapport. What's the logic behind this when people purposely learn how to keep rapport? I hope that's not too vague but I'm not sure how else to phrase it.


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It's like all :( :( :(

I don't actually agree with using significant freeze outs. It's like pushing a woman out into some snow when she's naked.

Hmmm... not that bad of an image
you should write porn.



Cocky funny is meant to break rapport. What's the logic behind this when people purposely learn how to keep rapport? I hope that's not too vague but I'm not sure how else to phrase it.
One of the basic ways to build attraction is to "raise your value," so to speak, and breaking rapport does exactly that, which is why C&F is a great tool to build attraction.

Building comfort and rapport and stuff like that is the necessary "pull" after the "push" to seduce! There's a lot of duality in the game where you have to do certain things that seem contradictory to each other, and this is one of the many aspects you should learn how to balance.

Think of the yin yang. :wink:


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hi

I read a lot, about mystery method, david d... but I have one question, I have afro hair and many girls come to me and touch my hair and say something like cool hair, and then leave... what should I do? How to keep them?

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I read a lot, about mystery method, david d... but I have one question, I have afro hair and many girls come to me and touch my hair and say something like cool hair, and then leave... what should I do? How to keep them?

thx
Reciprocate kino and engage them in conversation.


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I was in a 2set with an HB11 and the obstacle started giving me IOIs. Should I have DHV'd or DLV'd?


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I was in a 2set with an HB11 and the obstacle started giving me IOIs. Should I have DHV'd or DLV'd?
lol very funny Stormy

glad to see you on the forum.


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Hey chief,

Since you started at a young age, I thought you could relate.
I have a few questionss.

- How do you know what you're doing is right?
(since the feedback you get is never consistent)

- any tips of building a social circle from scratch?
(especially when you aren't so new to the area, and you don't have a good rep - since I'm young there's some restrictions and limitations when it comes to where I get to meet people)

- When you started out, I'm guessing you had to do it alone.. if you did, you got any advice?

btw, I'm really glad you spend time helping us out in the forums.


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- How do you know what you're doing is right?
(since the feedback you get is never consistent)
I know what I'm doing is right because I'm getting better results overall compared to when I was doing different stuff. I'd imagine the feedback you're getting isn't consistent if you're not completely congruent with the material you deliver, for example not actually believing yourself to have the higher value that you demonstrate. Sometimes it's just a matter of practicing and developing genuine confidence in your material. If that's the case then invest more effort in getting out and practicing more.

If you posess any doubts or inhibitions, if you don't commit yourself 100% into the pickup discipline, of course the feedback you get won't be consistent. Just like giving any live performance, this isn't something you can half-ass just to "try out" or something. Pickup is a commitment to real life-changing transformation. If you follow that path, you'll eventually start getting consistent feedback.
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- any tips of building a social circle from scratch?
(especially when you aren't so new to the area, and you don't have a good rep - since I'm young there's some restrictions and limitations when it comes to where I get to meet people)
What exactly do you mean by "don't have a good rep?" There's a differnce between not being known and being known in a negative way.

Last year, before I could get into most bars and clubs without paying expensive unofficial "cover" prices, I went to almost every Fraternity party I could go to. My school has rush during the second semester, so all Fraternities hold a bunch of parties and are really nice to freshmen for the entirety of the first semester. Just going to parties wasn't enough to become known, of course. You actually have to have fun, be extroverted, and spread good feeling at these parties to make a name for yourself. Of course, I guess this advice specifically applies to Tulane University, though. :P

The main thing to do to build a social circle is to constantly make friends. Be curious about people; make casual conversations with strangers and make them feel good. That's pretty much the broad-strokes, first-step approach. After you do this simple stuff, you're going to want to hunt down a specific kind of person often reffered to as "bridge." These are the people with a massive number of connections, the most social of the social butterflies, and always knows about what's going on in the social scene. You want to become close to these kinds of people after you invest enough in-field practive to become almost as or just as emotionally intelligent as they are. If you happen to meet a bridge who's a girl, DON'T FUCK HER. Instead, become her best friend. :) When you go fishing, you don't eat your bait, right?

Since you're a guy, you don't have to be so afraid of negative publicity. Unfortunately for women, what other people say about them can often be deathly important. Fortunately for us, the case is usually "any publicity is good publicity." If women hear your name spoken of in a bad light, the higher quality ones will want to find out the truth for themselves. So... go crazy.

Also, if you haven't already asked this question to Mr. Entourage Game himself, I suggest you shoot this question to Adam Lyons.
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- When you started out, I'm guessing you had to do it alone.. if you did, you got any advice?
You're right. When I started out, I was just learning about attraction from David Deangelo's material on my own. Since it WAS David D's stuff, though, the concept of a wingman hadn't even crossed my mind. Ever tried sarging with a guy who knew only DYD stuff? It totally sucked, didn't it?

If you're starting off alone, it's EASIER to focus on the Inner Game and attribution-focused material in the dense library of material in the seduction community rather adhering to Outer Game methods of the cold approach. However, maybe you're the type of guy who wants to grow faster by challenging yourself. Maybe you won't settle for EASY by indulging in your comfort zone. If this is you, grab your bigass balls and sarge by yourself.


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Chief, thanks for the reply !!

It sheds a lot of light on wht I'm stuck on.
cant thank you enough.

btw, can u recommend a good product? I knw this is typical of ppl to ask
.. but id rather hear it frm sm1 like u.


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Chief, thanks for the reply !!

It sheds a lot of light on wht I'm stuck on.
cant thank you enough.

btw, can u recommend a good product? I knw this is typical of ppl to ask
.. but id rather hear it frm sm1 like u.
The texts I recommend are The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo and The Zen of Meeting Women by Max Weiss. As for DVD programs, get RSD's Blueprint Decoded.


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Alright Chief since your the only one who takes Advanced Questions. Here goes my question.

Is it true that Asian people can be blindfolded by Dental Floss? :twisted:

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Hahaha! Stormy :P

Hey Chief, if you're going to build emotional connection with something other a positive emotion.

Say you were using a "bad day at work".

You reckon you can use this in the day game stage on the street. Or would the bad vibe lose her.

If tried this kinda stuff out but results are mixed: When I'm tired after work I might see someone I like on the way home, and I talk about my day 3-4 minutes into the conversation, occassionally I pull out some great rapport, other times it kills the mood.

Your opinion? Do you think their is a way I could get around losing the bad vibe, while also beginning to establish an emotional connection and hit the "willingness to emote" attraction switch?

Or do you feel that it is better for me to focus on keeping the vibe, relaxed and happy, rather than bother with working on emotional rapport at that stage?

Thanks in advance.


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Hahaha! Stormy :P

Hey Chief, if you're going to build emotional connection with something other a positive emotion.

Say you were using a "bad day at work".

You reckon you can use this in the day game stage on the street. Or would the bad vibe lose her.

If tried this kinda stuff out but results are mixed: When I'm tired after work I might see someone I like on the way home, and I talk about my day 3-4 minutes into the conversation, occassionally I pull out some great rapport, other times it kills the mood.

Your opinion? Do you think their is a way I could get around losing the bad vibe, while also beginning to establish an emotional connection and hit the "willingness to emote" attraction switch?

Or do you feel that it is better for me to focus on keeping the vibe, relaxed and happy, rather than bother with working on emotional rapport at that stage?

Thanks in advance.
What makes you think you need to access a negative emotion to create connection and rapport?

IMO the only time when you can use negative emotion is when you are DHVing (attraction, not rapport). The good results you got out of your mixed results were probably the result of you DHVing somehow, but don't use this as your stock game. You want to establish a connection with her based on positive emotions because you want to anchor as many good feelings to you as possible.

For emotional rapport, relate to all her positive emotions instead. Leave her happier than you found her.


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Well if she is already happy, then when I make her even more happy, it's hard for her to distinguish between what I made her feel, and what she was already feeling. Although I may very well be wrong on this.

If you for a short period of time gave of a different emotion, you could build emotional connection (The bovious problem si her anchoring the negative emotion to you)

You'd say it's better juts run with an upbeat feeling than bother with anything else?

Cheers man.


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