I agree with the original post, to put it into terms I understand it was like renzo gracie ( pro mma fighter, black belt jiu jitsu) explained how a trainer should never over-look what even the students way below his ability emphansized, he said that he almost submitted carlos newton by a manuever that his student ( a white belt jiu jitsu) had tought him, I feel that a guru on this art form should never overlook even what an afc has to say and instead fine tune it to make it work. Renzo said that a teacher who never give this thought is a limited teacher and only helps himself no one else.

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What are you working with as far as style is concerned? The usual MMA combo?

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Don't take everything so personal next time.

this is beautiful

AMen to that shiiiit

this helped so much b/c i tend to over think many situations

thank god this really opened my mind, this is excactly what i needed to hear, and i would like to point out something, this is a beautiful part You are absolutely right, you should do these things, some gurus say it makes women think you're a sucker. But it really doesn't if you do it the right way and the way you tell it here is the right way, this is excactly the kind of attitude you must have. You don't buy her flowers cause you really really wanna make her feel good and you are insecure what she feels about you so you have to "buy" her affection and so on. You buy her flowers because you fucking felt like it (i just loved that line), because you wanted to do something nice and because you are a gentleman. Because you do good things to her on your terms, you are nice to her because it's just what you do.

I like it a lot .. Great post.

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It is true. I found myself doing the exact same thing.
I've seen myself working my "spiritual" life going downwards because I was to dedicated about doing it all perfect. But in fact there is no perfect way.

Be yourself and you'll be attractive in any possible way.

Try to find a balance in it, and all will be fine.


Namaste

Very inspirational

Great thread. Responding to the original post. I have done the "over thinking" as well. I think we do it because we start becoming overly "outcome dependent" rather than just being true to ourselves and letting the chips fall where they may.

Thats the key. Honor yourself. Use PUA to understand women... but don't feel that you need to become a whole different person.

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This is the #1 reason why AFCs remain AFCs for so long. They (we) overthink everything.

But I would argue that the journey through over-analysis and constant thinking is necessary to get to where you are, and where everybody wants to be. You can't just be told "don't overthink everything." That isn't enough, that won't leave anybody with the revelation of how profoundly important it is to stand back and be comfortable with who you are.

No, we need to actually go through the experience, however painfully redundant and stunting it is, in order to learn for ourselves. We need to come to that realization without being told. I believe that overthinking is the main thing ruining my game, but there really won't be much I can do about it until I actually realize for myself how to actually game without overthinking.

The OP has it 100% correct, and I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for the post.

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I. Smith you're a good writer! as a student in english, i gotta say that was a well written article (and the content was BEAUTIFUL!)

And Rye Lee made an AWESOME post as well

This thread deserves to be stickied for real!

Good piece. As I newbie I've totally found myself over-thinking, and what happens is, you're sitting there trying to think of a teasing neg and you're totally missing what the girl is saying. She's giving you cues and you're missing them.

What I'm starting to think is that instead of focusing on all the specifics, I should simply start with just some overall themes to change my thinking, like:

1) Don't fear the approach...it doesn't take much to start a conversation
2) Be the prize...not her
3) Have a few prepared stories to get things going

I feel like if I can just learn these three, I'll be halfway home.