No. If you leave fate in the hands of life you get what you get. The players here go for what/who they want. LMAO we are talking about the human race. Don't tweak logic to make room for things that don't matter.

Traditional dating as it stands today for humans doesn't work. And if the entitled girl want to play the "make me feel special game" i have a routine for that. An inexpensive routine.

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Who says she'll stick around? Or that she'll even be into you? Since when do you feel entitled to sex now?

Point is. It will be a cheap process. That's it.

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It's only unfair if he forces her to live his lifestyle. Aka eat at 5star restaurants on a 3star budget.
That said, I like the 50-50 rule. But not in it's traditional sense.

If I take you out and pay whatever we're doing, I appreciate you paying the drinks at the next lounge we stop by.
It doesn't have to amount to the same monetary value. I don't really care for that. But it shows decency. And a few more character traits I like.

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Shows she was raised right! Nicely put.

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They don't eat at 5-star restaurants, or out much. But he still forces her to pay half the furniture and half of everything else. That is called a roommate, not a spouse. Their 50/50 isn't split fairly. How can it be fair when she's making 30k and he's making 60k? Because he makes double than her, he should be paying between 60-70% and her 30-40%. That's fair for both of them. And same applied if roles were reversed. She's also way out of his league as far as looks but that's another topic. And just so you know, while you guys go on attacking traditional courtship, his buddies call him a cheapskate disparagingly.

Because his buddies are pussy whipped and stuck in traditional courtship. It is none of their business anyway. Imagine a relationship where a woman tells me every time a bill comes up "oh you make more, you pay" I would go insane. Why ? Because that's a rule, then I should make a rule that I want sex whenever I want.

In the end, like R.C. said, it's all about reciprocity. If the girl is trying to contribute because she wants to bring something to the table I will be happy. Once she expects me to pay more because I have more money then that's where I have to put my foot down. She is not entitled to my salary.

I remember when me and my best friend went out to eat. We weren't romantically involved but she joked at the register that I should pay for her meal. I told her cockily that's not going to happen. You know what the cashier (a dude) said, "oh that's not how you treat your girl".

I just smirked and walked and picked a table for us. We both payed our meals separately. Like it should be between friends. She was joking but the cashier was not. The funny thing is, she is my best friend. She and I fool around. She knows she can't push me around. She loves it. That's how it should be.

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Doubt anyone buys furniture with their roomates.
It's fair if they're buying furniture made of spruce. Aka something she can easily afford herself.

It's unfair if they're buying furniture made of refined oak. Something she can't easily afford and something that's slightly outside her budget range.

It's not that complicated. He earns more and his lifestyle is probably more demanding. So if he wants to bring her into his lifestyle, yes, it's fair to compensate out of his own pocket.
He earns 60k, she earns 30k. They want to go on vacation. She wants to go to an affordable Greece.
It would cost 3k.
He wants to go to Bali. Bali costs 5k.

If they decide to go to Greece, it's fair that they each pay 3k.
If they decide to go to Bali, it's "unfair" they each pay 5k because that's out of her price range. So if he is keen on bringing her into his lifestyle, he should pay around 6.5k and she should pay the initial, affordable 3.5k that she would've payed for Greece anyway.
That clear it up?

But that's not the same as saying they should split just about everything 30-70 simply because he earns more, lol.

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With 30k a year, you simply cannot afford a 3k vacation. I've been there, some of my friends are still there. 1k is a stretch for many nowadays. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from.
Maybe because you live in Romania, 30k seems like a God send. But it's not. Not if you want to live in a good and clean low-crime area, decent transportation, a decent insurance, rent/mortgage, student loans, and the rest of life.

Seems like you've missed the point of the statement.

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Jack, I understand but I'm saying is that 3k is way too much for a vacation, I can't afford it, just starting out, and neither can my friends who've been working full-time on 30k. An affordable vacation would be $500-800 tops and a cruise would fit into that category (which is what most Americans opt for).

And the point R.C. was making is that if the man says we are going on a vacation YOU can afford, then be okay with it being split down the middle.



If you complain "but but I want to go to Bali!" and it is clearly out of your price range, you have no business suggesting a trip which you clearly can't afford.


on the other hand, if the man wants to go to Bali, then yes, it would be unfair to you to pay down the middle. It goes both ways in the end. Look at the bigger picture here.

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While you guys are rambling on and protesting (which is useless on this forum), all of my friend's boyfriends/fiancees/husbands (except 1) foot most of the costs....without any complaints. Most make significantly more than their partners, too.

So, don't speak to me, speak to the men out there in the real world.

Lol, always can count on you not taking responsibility for your argument. It's okay to admit you're wrong sometimes. I admit it when I know. Builds character.

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If a man can afford these things without risking his financial security, he won't complain. If it is a financially straining and he doesn't complain, it's not that he isn't complaining...he's just not complaining to her.

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