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Bullshit.

Game is nothing like poker.

There was NO online poker before the early 2000's. Game has existed...forever.

The mass amount of PUA material and easy accessibility has made little, if no impact on game. The majority of males know nothing about PUA. And the majority of people who DO know about PUA never, EVER get remotely good at it.

As per your "analogy" I remember stumbling on a guy who was good with women who knew NOTHING about PUA. Since I was just beginning my PUA journey myself, we were discussing topics/concepts about when he disagreed - He told me that women love sex MORE than men. This was back in 2005, I was just a teenager, and my mind was blown, as I'd always thought that women were hesitant to have sex because they didn't enjoy it as much.


You sir, are simply suffering from self confirmation bias - there have ALWAYS been men who dressed well, you simply weren't LOOKING and therefore didn't notice.

The average man is NOT doomed. The average man WILL get laid, eventually. Based on pure statistics alone, the average man will get a woman to have sex with him, at least 2-3. The only thing is, that these girls themselves will be average as well.
Yes! Finally.

If you have been out lately you would notice how many scrubs and "average" guys do get laid. It is in our programming to make this happen. And while 5-20% of the guys do significantly better at this than most, guys are going to get laid.

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Bullshit.

Game is nothing like poker.

There was NO online poker before the early 2000's. Game has existed...forever.

The mass amount of PUA material and easy accessibility has made little, if no impact on game. The majority of males know nothing about PUA. And the majority of people who DO know about PUA never, EVER get remotely good at it.

As per your "analogy" I remember stumbling on a guy who was good with women who knew NOTHING about PUA. Since I was just beginning my PUA journey myself, we were discussing topics/concepts about when he disagreed - He told me that women love sex MORE than men. This was back in 2005, I was just a teenager, and my mind was blown, as I'd always thought that women were hesitant to have sex because they didn't enjoy it as much.


You sir, are simply suffering from self confirmation bias - there have ALWAYS been men who dressed well, you simply weren't LOOKING and therefore didn't notice.

The average man is NOT doomed. The average man WILL get laid, eventually. Based on pure statistics alone, the average man will get a woman to have sex with him, at least 2-3. The only thing is, that these girls themselves will be average as well.
Yes! Finally.

If you have been out lately you would notice how many scrubs and "average" guys do get laid. It is in our programming to make this happen. And while 5-20% of the guys do significantly better at this than most, guys are going to get laid.

Fact is... For most women.. The majority of their dating and sex comes not from strangers at the bar but by social circle. The 10 girl who expects a 10 guy in tinder.. Well she's sleeping with an daring 7s in her social circle. So the average guy is still getting laid a lot. Cold approach and stranger game is one very very very small piece of total sexual interactions.
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Bullshit.

Game is nothing like poker.

There was NO online poker before the early 2000's. Game has existed...forever.

The mass amount of PUA material and easy accessibility has made little, if no impact on game. The majority of males know nothing about PUA. And the majority of people who DO know about PUA never, EVER get remotely good at it.

As per your "analogy" I remember stumbling on a guy who was good with women who knew NOTHING about PUA. Since I was just beginning my PUA journey myself, we were discussing topics/concepts about when he disagreed - He told me that women love sex MORE than men. This was back in 2005, I was just a teenager, and my mind was blown, as I'd always thought that women were hesitant to have sex because they didn't enjoy it as much.


You sir, are simply suffering from self confirmation bias - there have ALWAYS been men who dressed well, you simply weren't LOOKING and therefore didn't notice.

The average man is NOT doomed. The average man WILL get laid, eventually. Based on pure statistics alone, the average man will get a woman to have sex with him, at least 2-3. The only thing is, that these girls themselves will be average as well.
Yes! Finally.

If you have been out lately you would notice how many scrubs and "average" guys do get laid. It is in our programming to make this happen. And while 5-20% of the guys do significantly better at this than most, guys are going to get laid.

Fact is... For most women.. The majority of their dating and sex comes not from strangers at the bar but by social circle. The 10 girl who expects a 10 guy in tinder.. Well she's sleeping with an daring 7s in her social circle. So the average guy is still getting laid a lot. Cold approach and stranger game is one very very very small piece of total sexual interactions.

Absolutely. This is why building up your social circle, being friendly to EVERYONE - these are important concepts that many newbies and a few experts seem to gloss over.

No matter how good you are, cold approach will only get you so far. There will be many women with boyfriends, husbands, and significant others who will not have any relationship with you. There will be some women who simply "aren't your type". Some women who aren't available. Some women who won't like your approach. There are also many more obstacles to overcome in cold approach that aren't there in social circle game.
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Yeah. Don't get me wrong.. I don't see the signs that the OP is seeing but if they are true then it's gonna get harder for the cold approach crowd. But the average guy doesn't cold approach nor meets his lays from cold approach anyway. Women will still sleep with and date the guys in their social circle and give them more leeway than the guys off the street.
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Majority of them settle for whatever they get in their social circle. Even if it doesn't make them happy. It's because they know it's the best they can do. Really lame if you ask me. AFC life

I would say there is about the same % of people that do well with cold approach. as well as the equally same % of people that actually do social circle game well.

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Bullshit.

Game is nothing like poker.

There was NO online poker before the early 2000's. Game has existed...forever.

The mass amount of PUA material and easy accessibility has made little, if no impact on game. The majority of males know nothing about PUA. And the majority of people who DO know about PUA never, EVER get remotely good at it.

As per your "analogy" I remember stumbling on a guy who was good with women who knew NOTHING about PUA. Since I was just beginning my PUA journey myself, we were discussing topics/concepts about when he disagreed - He told me that women love sex MORE than men. This was back in 2005, I was just a teenager, and my mind was blown, as I'd always thought that women were hesitant to have sex because they didn't enjoy it as much.


You sir, are simply suffering from self confirmation bias - there have ALWAYS been men who dressed well, you simply weren't LOOKING and therefore didn't notice.

The average man is NOT doomed. The average man WILL get laid, eventually. Based on pure statistics alone, the average man will get a woman to have sex with him, at least 2-3. The only thing is, that these girls themselves will be average as well.
Lol this post screams out "I don't get it yet, and I don't want to accept that, so fuck you!" don't worry man, it's not that hard.

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Bullshit.

Game is nothing like poker.

There was NO online poker before the early 2000's. Game has existed...forever.

The mass amount of PUA material and easy accessibility has made little, if no impact on game. The majority of males know nothing about PUA. And the majority of people who DO know about PUA never, EVER get remotely good at it.

As per your "analogy" I remember stumbling on a guy who was good with women who knew NOTHING about PUA. Since I was just beginning my PUA journey myself, we were discussing topics/concepts about when he disagreed - He told me that women love sex MORE than men. This was back in 2005, I was just a teenager, and my mind was blown, as I'd always thought that women were hesitant to have sex because they didn't enjoy it as much.


You sir, are simply suffering from self confirmation bias - there have ALWAYS been men who dressed well, you simply weren't LOOKING and therefore didn't notice.

The average man is NOT doomed. The average man WILL get laid, eventually. Based on pure statistics alone, the average man will get a woman to have sex with him, at least 2-3. The only thing is, that these girls themselves will be average as well.
Lol this post screams out "I don't get it yet, and I don't want to accept that, so fuck you!" don't worry man, it's not that hard.

What are you talking about dude? Genuinely don't know why you highlighted my post here.

The internet hasn't changed the game in any significant way, shape or form. The majority of dudes around the world know little to nothing. The majority of guys who know about game are STILL going to be AFC's.

You can't learn game from an internet forum, it's something that needs to be practiced and integrated. It's a lifestyle. And the vast majority of men are not willing to make the changes to their lifestyle to become good at it.

The idea that the internet has somehow "changed" things is bullshit. It's confirmation bias. There was no magical "shift" in 2008, 2007, 2006, or years prior. Yes game has gone more mainstream, but that has had little effect on the actual behaviour of men on a large scale.
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ChocolatePUA is talking sense.

Do you even go out or actually hang with girls lol?

99% of guys don't know what the fuck they're doing.

The fact that this community exists hasn't changed that. Because most of the coaches are shambles anyway.

And, information is not application... most guys will not have the stamina to get good in this game.

To completely dismiss your post... One thing I've tried quite a lot lately is dressing down...

If guys are wearing smart shirts and blazers in a venue, I will roll in with my hair all over the place wearing a plain T-shirt and Jeans...

It's that natural vibe that's important.
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To completely dismiss your post... One thing I've tried quite a lot lately is dressing down...

If guys are wearing smart shirts and blazers in a venue, I will roll in with my hair all over the place wearing a plain T-shirt and Jeans...

It's that natural vibe that's important.
I hate when guys say things like that. It's like when guys say "I can get laid on coffee dates!" ok, you can, does that mean it's the easiest way to do so? No, of course not.

You technically don't NEED any footwear to run... but it helps a lot. I could not brush my teeth for a year and get laid... does that mean I should do it?

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Yeah I often wear a Borat thong so that I am pushing my comfort zones...

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To completely dismiss your post... One thing I've tried quite a lot lately is dressing down...

If guys are wearing smart shirts and blazers in a venue, I will roll in with my hair all over the place wearing a plain T-shirt and Jeans...

It's that natural vibe that's important.
I hate when guys say things like that. It's like when guys say "I can get laid on coffee dates!" ok, you can, does that mean it's the easiest way to do so? No, of course not.

You technically don't NEED any footwear to run... but it helps a lot. I could not brush my teeth for a year and get laid... does that mean I should do it?

Still waiting for an explanation as to what you were referring to when quoted my post.
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To completely dismiss your post... One thing I've tried quite a lot lately is dressing down...

If guys are wearing smart shirts and blazers in a venue, I will roll in with my hair all over the place wearing a plain T-shirt and Jeans...

It's that natural vibe that's important.
I hate when guys say things like that. It's like when guys say "I can get laid on coffee dates!" ok, you can, does that mean it's the easiest way to do so? No, of course not.

You technically don't NEED any footwear to run... but it helps a lot. I could not brush my teeth for a year and get laid... does that mean I should do it?

Bro you buy the most expensive and dynamic running gear in the world but if you've got a broken heel you've got no chance.
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To completely dismiss your post... One thing I've tried quite a lot lately is dressing down...

If guys are wearing smart shirts and blazers in a venue, I will roll in with my hair all over the place wearing a plain T-shirt and Jeans...

It's that natural vibe that's important.
I hate when guys say things like that. It's like when guys say "I can get laid on coffee dates!" ok, you can, does that mean it's the easiest way to do so? No, of course not.

You technically don't NEED any footwear to run... but it helps a lot. I could not brush my teeth for a year and get laid... does that mean I should do it?

Bro you buy the most expensive and dynamic running gear in the world but if you've got a broken heel you've got no chance.
The point I was making is that the guy "dresses down" and thinks it's productive, and it really isn't. Just because he CAN get laid doing it (I assume) doesn't mean it's the easiest way to get laid.

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ChocolatePUA is talking sense.

Do you even go out or actually hang with girls lol?

99% of guys don't know what the fuck they're doing.

The fact that this community exists hasn't changed that. Because most of the coaches are shambles anyway.

And, information is not application... most guys will not have the stamina to get good in this game.

To completely dismiss your post... One thing I've tried quite a lot lately is dressing down...

If guys are wearing smart shirts and blazers in a venue, I will roll in with my hair all over the place wearing a plain T-shirt and Jeans...

It's that natural vibe that's important.
This guy wins.

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