True Core Confidence is more of my ideal, more of a person who as you said balanced it all his place in society, with his happiness, and high esteem for himself. I just couldn't define it as simply and concise as you put it in one word and that is more what I'm looking for perhaps.

Sweet, thanks for your thoughts. I'm trying to lay this out right and I appreciate your input. It is all helping understand my philosophies and use the correct diction, as I said this is more your specialty than mine.

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Confidence is nothing more than a good feeling about something arising from a conscious our subconscious thought-process. That's clear and that's concrete. That's something you can hold on to.

My definition is better because it tracks the root of the word, etymology. The word ego is confused now. It has lost its meaning over time. You just continue support this confusion by not understanding what you are saying.

Don't be nice to me. I got ego stregnth so the bullshit you say to me rolls of me like water off a ducks back.

You are struggling to describe the intangible and you are going in circle. You would do better by humbling yourself and submit to my authority.

You're not going to become confident by observing people that are confident. You become confident by thinking like people that are confident.

I'm teaching right now. You should take notes.

No flaming intended, but ^this guy and his posts make a perfect example of a typical 'Look at me, I am this, I am that' mindset. We had a Stelar. We lost a Stelar. Now we have a wannabe-Stelar.

On topic though, I believe the ego is the biggest factor contributing to multiple failures of reaching our goals and be who we want to be in life.

Fight Club is an excellent example of this message. Tyler Durden's character is merely the self-perceptive image of the main character. This is who he wants to be but lacks the courage to go through with . . . Again due to 'barriers' that don't actually exist.

Meditation, I believe, will also prevent you from creating these mental barriers and arguably reduce your ego by a great deal due to how you're forcing yourself to stay in the present and have a clearer mind.

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How is this clear? Read your first sentence please. "From a conscious our subconscious thought process?" As kasabi was pointing out it is part of a temporary world where you happen to be very competent in it. A better statement would be confidence is the point of unconscious competence in an ability. Is this what you were shooting for? I was describing more of an ideal, which really isn't exactly the word confidence explains. I do apologize that I redefined my "ideal on confidence."
Your opinion is that your definition is better, that doesn't make you more right (outside of your own world). Definitions of words change, could you imagine if someone who died in the 50s heard how we talk to today? Words adapt and change in meaning. It is just how language works. For all we know at one point it was just eg or just o or even just go but now it is ego. For you to say the root word is it's current definition is just closed minded behavior. The world is ever changing if you don't change with it it's going to pass you by.

I apologize but I think I should have just wrote your SPIRITUAL EGO, perhaps then we can agree. I figured the multiple definitions would help you understand the definition I was talking about, perhaps you aren't ready for it.

Why on earth would you bring up model behavior? You refused to go through the route of rejection to realize rejection means nothing in the grand scheme of how you feel about yourself. You want people to follow model behavior to be confident but you don't want to model the behavior every pick up artist must go through to become great? I didn't become confident(gain a high self-esteem for myself) by observing anyone or just thinking like a confident person. I became confident (perhaps I should say I gained a unchangeable high esteem for myself) through hard work and effort, through experience and constant mental, emotional, and ego awareness.

This is going to sound mean but you really don't know what I'm talking about because you don't have this feeling. It's not something you can identify with, so I don't see any reason to listen to you on behalf of it. Why would I go to a blind man to ask how the sunset looked tonight?

From everything I've learned, read, and how I've gained confidence you don't just gain confidence from thinking like people who are confident, you become confident by thinking and acting like confident people. This means having experiences confident men have, not just thinking about how a confident person experiences his actions. I'm not saying you shouldn't think about it but at some point you simply become that guy who is "high value" to himself and no one changes that. You do what he does and act as he does.

Note: I feel the need to mention this, Gaining confidence in any ability is very similar to gaining success in any area, it comes from repeated failure. Failure whether you like it or not is how we learn, though I'd agree we can learn some things from others. Some of us learn from others mistakes which is awesome but many of our early lessons were experienced not read about.

You became confident in walking by tripping and falling along the way, literally. Now however you are confident walking, this is how you become confident at anything, tripping and falling along the way.

My "ideal" on Confidence is a mindset that extend to all your behaviors and actions.

Note: Earlier I said confidence is a mindset, are you now agreeing with me or did I misconstrue what you were saying and you always agreed confidence was a mindset?

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Thats the post of the decade!!!!!! i´ve been off the forum for almost half year,but i couldnt resist to reply at this message,its sooo funny

What about him calling me stupid, illogical and character from a bad book?

1.) Confidence is a good feeling about something arising from a conscious OR subconscious thought process. Sometimes the conscious thought process is stronger and you can make yourself believe something and sometimes the subconscious is stronger and you feel a certain way because of what beliefs are already inside of you.

2.) My definition is sure, concrete, certain. Your definition is like defining an elephant by calling it a fathing. C'mon on man? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1NwW3GCn7k

Word change, but they also lose their meanings as people continue to pass along confused definitions. Emotional and confused is no way to go through life son. Why you mad tho? Just look at the word Love, its so vague and people mislead each other by saying I love you. The Greeks had it right with more concrete definitions like (EROS, PHILIOS, and AGAPE). Even worse you are talking about something that don't exist. You calling a donkey a unicorn. C'mon on man.

3.) You become confident by thinking like confident. The only way sharing the same experiences as confident people will make you confident is if those experiences make you think the same way as those confident people. You are what you believe.

4.) By falling over and over you become a failure. You have to be willing to fail to succeed because you have to be willing to take risks. Failing also can make you realize losing isn't the end of the world, but once you start failing you start to believe its okay to fail. You even may expect to fail and this weakens your will.

When don't get strong by falling, we get strong by learning from failure and getting back up stronger so we don't fall again.

5.) Getting out of your comfort zone does increase your confident. When I was a kid I thought there was a monster under my bed, so you know what I looked under the bed. However, you have to protect your insecurities. You know those negative and self-defeating beliefs; the more you lose the more those will be reinforced.

6.) I have approached about 1000 different women. I can teach you a thing or two about the power of belief. Sometimes you can win on confidence and self-esteem alone. However, You need good technique...at some point.

So a smile is confidence? A laugh is confidence? Heroin is confidence? Meth is confidence? That is a pretty vague statement, just saying, for you to be upset with my thoughts as I already said it really is an Ideal and I admitted that. What more do you want? Look above to see how concrete your definition is. Meanings change, that is how it is. I love you these days is said with a lot more ease than it was back in the day.

If you think I'm emotional (in a negative way) and confused you are sorely mistaken. I am very confident, you are right about me being somewhat emotional because I'm normally pretty happy. Happiness is a form of emotion after all. I'm not mad, at all, literally dumbfounded by your arrogance. Best selling books have had that description of the ego from that context. YOU ARE NOT THE MAN WHO DEFINES WORDS. Sorry to let you know.

Eros was a name, not sure your point on that. (God of love)

I'm talking about an ideal, my ideal and I admitted that it was an ideal. Again you don't even have a clue what I'm talking about because you haven't reached it yet. I won't go to a blind man and ask him for a description of the sunset.
You do not become confident just from thinking confident. You become confident from thinking and ACTING confident. Actions are those that make a man, thoughts are those that make a coward.

LOL So if I believe me to be a pitchfork I must be a pitchfork. If I believe me to be a woman, I must be a woman. REALLY? LOL FANTASTIC. I'm Brad Pitt, I wonder how many girl's I can fuck now.
No by not getting up after you fall you become a failure. It is those who refuse to stand after falling that are failures. Failing makes you realize nothing about you changes, I agree absolutely.

Perhaps we should modify our thoughts on failure and look at it as Edison did:
Your eye isn't on the failure, your eye is on the success. It doesn't matter whether you do it wrong 1000s of times. The problem is you see failure as a negative thing, I see it as a learning experience. This should be your basic thought process so I Absolutely agree with your last sentence.
I agree Getting outside of your comfort zone is very important because we create our own barriers, we create our own ceilings. You do not have to protect your insecurities. Why are you insecure? To say you have to protect your insecurities is something I'd have to disagree with. You need to acknowledge them, you can not improve your insecurities if you are constantly hiding them or protecting them. Know them but don't let them own you.

The common misconception is that you show strength by hiding weaknesses. You show strength by acknowledging weakness. All the great leaders of this world(not dictators) had humility, they acknowledge their weaknesses and lived with them.
You've approached 1000 different women? How many have you had sex with 500 or 600? If you are really that good why are we even arguing here, go fuck one of your 500 girls. I hope with your arrogance that you are fucking at least a 1-2 ratio.

Of course I could learn something from you. You can learn something from everyone even if it is what not to do, That is the nature of learning.

My thoughts on getting good with women start with confidence in yourself and continue on learning to escalate and practicing escalating correctly and becoming a correctly responsive man. If you think I have no techniques with women you have no clue who I am.

Note: I'd very much doubt based on the collection of your posts that you are even close to the level of my skills. I've probably got more guys laid then you've been laid. You talk about a good technique women, if you are still using "A good technique" then you are way behind me. I use very situational game, and my technique and skills adapt to the situation and the woman. If you keep coming looking for advice your skills aren't that impressive, lets put it this way I haven't asked for what to do to get a woman in a long time. I talked about confidence and really it's diction is my issue, I'm writing an email boot camp on gaining what I have from a "confidence", "high self-esteem", "comfort in my own skin" standpoint. A lot of people have asked me for help in this area so I thought I'd finally get it done.

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Thanks Panda, I agree the ego(spiritual) is a huge issue in the grand scheme of man and his fear of failure.

That is great advice! I too am a big believer in Meditation. Meditation makes you aware of your mind, emotions, body, and spirit, the ego(spiritual) can enslave all of them even at once. Meditating with regularity was one of the best habits I gained.

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Guys,I'm sorry but this Post is too overly,masterly mentally-masturbated.


I like to reason things out in an understandable way but...This is just dumb!


@poeticlyskuac Got it pretty close in the beginning...

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1.) A smile, a laugh are not confidence they are just gestures. But, If you have a good feeling then it is confidence. Confidence is all about that feeling of comfort you get. When you feel comfortable about something its easy to do. That's all confidence is about---->feeling comfortable. And that is all mental. Yes drugs can give you that good feeling. You brought up heroin, but the common drug people use to get comfortable is alcohol, liquid courage. Alcohol gives you that good feeling and that good feeeling replaces feelings of awkwardness that stop you from doing things.

2.) Eros is romantice love. Philios is brotherly love. Agape is unconditional love. Love love has a confusing meaning today. It had a more concrete definition in the past. And people are confused by what people when they say love and this leads to suffering.

Anyone can define a word. All you need is a concrete and useful definition.

3.) Without a doubt, the difference between the hero and a coward is what you do. The both feel fear, but the hero fights those feelings off and does what has to be done. The coward is less discipline so he submits to his feelings.

However, without confidence or discipline ( a comfort with discomfort) everyone would behave like a coward.

Mental masturbation is just sitting back complimenting yourself. But, to tell yourself you are the shit in order to face a challenge that is applying confidence properly. Its all about giving your self a good feeling to get to where you need to be. Its all about give yourself that good feeling on the inside so you can achieve that victory over yourself.

4.) If you believe you are a woman you will behave like you think a woman should behave. If you believe you are brad pitt you will behave like you think Brad Pitt would behave. THis would not get you woman, this would get you confidence.

5.) YOu're not listening. When something happens to you on a consistent basis you begin to expect it on a subconscious level. Girls don't work like that. People are different and its very random what some poeple like and don't like. What may work on one person may not work on another person?

6.) People are insecure because negative experience, inexperience, or dependency. When you have negative experience you have haunting scars that make you feel unsure about certain things. These scars never go away and you can only MANAGE them with confidence. Inexperience is when you feel unsure because don't know what to expect, this type of insecurity can be completely banished. Dependency is when you depend on others to make you confident, this kinda like a baby.

Insecurit is a part of the human existence just like fear is, but its not about whether you feel inseucre or not its about what you do.

Insecurity arise from negative and self-defeating beliefs. Just like you can nurture your confidence, you can also nurture your fears. Negative experience nurtures your fears.

7. You have no clue about what confidence is and how to develop it. You may be confident, but you don't understand why.

8.) I ask for advice because I don't know everything. I do things a certain way. And I'm always looking for ways to make things easier for myself hence the name "I want easy love"

Also, A trainer is not judged on success but on how far you have brought someone.

A smile makes you feel good. Laughing makes you feel good, basic body language science. (Do you need studies?) Confidence is not about that feeling of comfort, it is also about having worth in that area. Arrogance can make you feel comfortable, that doesn't make it justified "confidence".

Don't avoid the statement Heroin and Meth give you confidence by your concrete definition. So everyone go out get drunk, do heroin, meth, coke! THAT gives confidence and you don't even really have to work hard to get there! You are very very very very uneducated in this area. You are defining something you know nothing about.

Pretty sure you don't know what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to Eros. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros
Eros (/ˈɪərɒs/, US: /ˈɛrɒs/; Ancient Greek: Ἔρως, "Desire"), in Greek mythology, was the Greek god of love. His Roman counterpart was Cupid ("desire"). Some myths make him a primordial god, while in other myths, he is the son of Aphrodite.

NO, Anyone can re-define a word as you proved. Why won't you agree with my official CONCRETE definition of Ego? Oh that is right it’s not ANYONE that can define a word.

Discipline while it can be comfort with discomfort is you doing something regardless of your desire to do so. It's working out when you don't feel like it, eating right when you want that extra cup cake, doing your homework instead of going out.

This entire conversation has been mental masturbation dude. If you still need to tell yourself you are the shit you aren't confident. If you just know it then you have that confidence I'm talking about. I don't ever need to say you’re The Man to myself to go talk to a chick LOL. WTF? Confidence is just doing it instinctually, shit she is cute and just doing. No need for motivation outside of your desire for her as you already feel good enough for her an like you deserve it.
Here is a quote from my buddy:
A Man who has an Insane level of Intrinsic Self-Worth and is Driven by Desire, not Ego.
I’m driven by my desire to fuck the girl because it will be fun, not because if I fuck her I’ll look good.
What? You completely ignored the fact that your statement was ridiculous. YOU ARE NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE.

The best way to put what you are talking about is this:

Whether you think you can or you can't your right.
I'm not listening how many articles have I posted for you to read? Yet you want to talk to me about listening? I went to your link read your shit, watched your stupid video, my arguments are research, based on more than just bull shit.

You don't get it, you seem to think I don't believe in learning from your negative experiences to turn them into POSITIVE EXPERIENCES. You see me and you look at things entirely differently.

If a woman was to reject me, I would say ok I did this good, this good, this good, ok this is where I messed up. I'd give an example but I cant' remember the last time this happened.

If I was playing poker, and I went through what I did when I got took. I would say ok I raised at the beginning that was good, I watched the cards, put him on this, this, or this (card ranges is how you read cards in poker). He re-raised so I knew he had a strong hand. I shouldn't have pushed all in over him because it was obvious he had queens, kings, or Aces. I would pay attention to where I went wrong. You don't say I failed, you say shit, I didn't act properly. Courtship is extremely similar, you say oh I did this or did that, I shouldn't have done that, or I should have done this.

Courtship is as simple as being attractive and responding to a woman at the proper pace. Giving her what she needs now, whether that is for you to give her shit, to be nice, to be non-threatening, etc.

People are insecure because they have no confidence in themselves, because they don't realize everyone has short comings. Honestly who gives a fuck if I'm fat? I'm still an attractive guy who gets 90% of woman I interact with attracted to me (someone said that about me). I am not going to dwell on my being fat. This is the behavior of a confident man vs. an insecure man that worries about what he is wearing, making sure to wear slimmer clothes, suck your stomach in, etc. LOL I don't lack confidence or assurance about much. I know what I know and know what I don't, but regardless I'm assure of myself.


Insecurity - lack of confidence or assurance; self-doubt: He is plagued by insecurity.

Scars don't hurt, they leave marks. A scar does not affect you after the injury has healed. You see, this is another major difference. When you gain a scar from a burn it teaches you to NOT touch the hot cookie tray again. The scar heals, and you know not to next time but it doesn't hurt anymore, you merely learned a lesson.

You believe in gaining your value from others, we've went over this time and time again, hell this entire thread is all about self-belief rather than using the beliefs of others to create your own value. For example, you care about rejection because it may make you look bad or feel bad. I don't give a fuck if a girl isn't interested, honestly I feel it is her loss.

I agree with most of your last paragraph but insecurities arise from you not understanding your true value. You are as good as anyone else in this world.

Your fears feed off of your negative experiences. You are afraid that girl will reject you like that last bitch did. Your fears are literally based on past negative experiences.
LOL- I have no clue what confidence is but I'm confident, where as you don't have self-confidence yet you can tell me all about it? I know more about developing people and their confidence then you may realize, your thoughts aren't the facts of life. I've developed tons of people further then you're developed right now.
It's always good to seek advice, I won't put you down for needing advice. I will put you down for thinking you know more than someone who needs no advice in an area, this attitude is arrogant.
You want me to put you in touch with some of the guys I've developed confidence in? Will that help you realize? I can't believe you would even think that I have no skills developing people, I'm a manager my job is to develop people.

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A smile makes you feel good. Laughing makes you feel good, basic body language science. (Do you need studies?) Confidence is not about that feeling of comfort, it is also about having worth in that area. Arrogance can make you feel comfortable, that doesn't make it justified "confidence".

Don't avoid the statement Heroin and Meth give you confidence by your concrete definition. So everyone go out get drunk, do heroin, meth, coke! THAT gives confidence and you don't even really have to work hard to get there! You are very very very very uneducated in this area. You are defining something you know nothing about.

Pretty sure you don't know what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to Eros. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros
Eros (/ˈɪərɒs/, US: /ˈɛrɒs/; Ancient Greek: Ἔρως, "Desire"), in Greek mythology, was the Greek god of love. His Roman counterpart was Cupid ("desire"). Some myths make him a primordial god, while in other myths, he is the son of Aphrodite.

NO, Anyone can re-define a word as you proved. Why won't you agree with my official CONCRETE definition of Ego? Oh that is right it’s not ANYONE that can define a word.

Discipline while it can be comfort with discomfort is you doing something regardless of your desire to do so. It's working out when you don't feel like it, eating right when you want that extra cup cake, doing your homework instead of going out.

This entire conversation has been mental masturbation dude. If you still need to tell yourself you are the shit you aren't confident. If you just know it then you have that confidence I'm talking about. I don't ever need to say you’re The Man to myself to go talk to a chick LOL. WTF? Confidence is just doing it instinctually, shit she is cute and just doing. No need for motivation outside of your desire for her as you already feel good enough for her an like you deserve it.
Here is a quote from my buddy:
A Man who has an Insane level of Intrinsic Self-Worth and is Driven by Desire, not Ego.
I’m driven by my desire to fuck the girl because it will be fun, not because if I fuck her I’ll look good.
What? You completely ignored the fact that your statement was ridiculous. YOU ARE NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE.

The best way to put what you are talking about is this:

Whether you think you can or you can't your right.
I'm not listening how many articles have I posted for you to read? Yet you want to talk to me about listening? I went to your link read your shit, watched your stupid video, my arguments are research, based on more than just bull shit.

You don't get it, you seem to think I don't believe in learning from your negative experiences to turn them into POSITIVE EXPERIENCES. You see me and you look at things entirely differently.

If a woman was to reject me, I would say ok I did this good, this good, this good, ok this is where I messed up. I'd give an example but I cant' remember the last time this happened.

If I was playing poker, and I went through what I did when I got took. I would say ok I raised at the beginning that was good, I watched the cards, put him on this, this, or this (card ranges is how you read cards in poker). He re-raised so I knew he had a strong hand. I shouldn't have pushed all in over him because it was obvious he had queens, kings, or Aces. I would pay attention to where I went wrong. You don't say I failed, you say shit, I didn't act properly. Courtship is extremely similar, you say oh I did this or did that, I shouldn't have done that, or I should have done this.

Courtship is as simple as being attractive and responding to a woman at the proper pace. Giving her what she needs now, whether that is for you to give her shit, to be nice, to be non-threatening, etc.

People are insecure because they have no confidence in themselves, because they don't realize everyone has short comings. Honestly who gives a fuck if I'm fat? I'm still an attractive guy who gets 90% of woman I interact with attracted to me (someone said that about me). I am not going to dwell on my being fat. This is the behavior of a confident man vs. an insecure man that worries about what he is wearing, making sure to wear slimmer clothes, suck your stomach in, etc. LOL I don't lack confidence or assurance about much. I know what I know and know what I don't, but regardless I'm assure of myself.


Insecurity - lack of confidence or assurance; self-doubt: He is plagued by insecurity.

Scars don't hurt, they leave marks. A scar does not affect you after the injury has healed. You see, this is another major difference. When you gain a scar from a burn it teaches you to NOT touch the hot cookie tray again. The scar heals, and you know not to next time but it doesn't hurt anymore, you merely learned a lesson.

You believe in gaining your value from others, we've went over this time and time again, hell this entire thread is all about self-belief rather than using the beliefs of others to create your own value. For example, you care about rejection because it may make you look bad or feel bad. I don't give a fuck if a girl isn't interested, honestly I feel it is her loss.

I agree with most of your last paragraph but insecurities arise from you not understanding your true value. You are as good as anyone else in this world.

Your fears feed off of your negative experiences. You are afraid that girl will reject you like that last bitch did. Your fears are literally based on past negative experiences.
LOL- I have no clue what confidence is but I'm confident, where as you don't have self-confidence yet you can tell me all about it? I know more about developing people and their confidence then you may realize, your thoughts aren't the facts of life. I've developed tons of people further then you're developed right now.
It's always good to seek advice, I won't put you down for needing advice. I will put you down for thinking you know more than someone who needs no advice in an area, this attitude is arrogant.
You want me to put you in touch with some of the guys I've developed confidence in? Will that help you realize? I can't believe you would even think that I have no skills developing people, I'm a manager my job is to develop people.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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A smile makes you feel good. Laughing makes you feel good, basic body language science. (Do you need studies?) Confidence is not about that feeling of comfort, it is also about having worth in that area. Arrogance can make you feel comfortable, that doesn't make it justified "confidence".

Don't avoid the statement Heroin and Meth give you confidence by your concrete definition. So everyone go out get drunk, do heroin, meth, coke! THAT gives confidence and you don't even really have to work hard to get there! You are very very very very uneducated in this area. You are defining something you know nothing about.

Pretty sure you don't know what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to Eros. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros
Eros (/ˈɪərɒs/, US: /ˈɛrɒs/; Ancient Greek: Ἔρως, "Desire"), in Greek mythology, was the Greek god of love. His Roman counterpart was Cupid ("desire"). Some myths make him a primordial god, while in other myths, he is the son of Aphrodite.

NO, Anyone can re-define a word as you proved. Why won't you agree with my official CONCRETE definition of Ego? Oh that is right it’s not ANYONE that can define a word.

Discipline while it can be comfort with discomfort is you doing something regardless of your desire to do so. It's working out when you don't feel like it, eating right when you want that extra cup cake, doing your homework instead of going out.

This entire conversation has been mental masturbation dude. If you still need to tell yourself you are the shit you aren't confident. If you just know it then you have that confidence I'm talking about. I don't ever need to say you’re The Man to myself to go talk to a chick LOL. WTF? Confidence is just doing it instinctually, shit she is cute and just doing. No need for motivation outside of your desire for her as you already feel good enough for her an like you deserve it.
Here is a quote from my buddy:
A Man who has an Insane level of Intrinsic Self-Worth and is Driven by Desire, not Ego.
I’m driven by my desire to fuck the girl because it will be fun, not because if I fuck her I’ll look good.
What? You completely ignored the fact that your statement was ridiculous. YOU ARE NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE.

The best way to put what you are talking about is this:

Whether you think you can or you can't your right.
I'm not listening how many articles have I posted for you to read? Yet you want to talk to me about listening? I went to your link read your shit, watched your stupid video, my arguments are research, based on more than just bull shit.

You don't get it, you seem to think I don't believe in learning from your negative experiences to turn them into POSITIVE EXPERIENCES. You see me and you look at things entirely differently.

If a woman was to reject me, I would say ok I did this good, this good, this good, ok this is where I messed up. I'd give an example but I cant' remember the last time this happened.

If I was playing poker, and I went through what I did when I got took. I would say ok I raised at the beginning that was good, I watched the cards, put him on this, this, or this (card ranges is how you read cards in poker). He re-raised so I knew he had a strong hand. I shouldn't have pushed all in over him because it was obvious he had queens, kings, or Aces. I would pay attention to where I went wrong. You don't say I failed, you say shit, I didn't act properly. Courtship is extremely similar, you say oh I did this or did that, I shouldn't have done that, or I should have done this.

Courtship is as simple as being attractive and responding to a woman at the proper pace. Giving her what she needs now, whether that is for you to give her shit, to be nice, to be non-threatening, etc.

People are insecure because they have no confidence in themselves, because they don't realize everyone has short comings. Honestly who gives a fuck if I'm fat? I'm still an attractive guy who gets 90% of woman I interact with attracted to me (someone said that about me). I am not going to dwell on my being fat. This is the behavior of a confident man vs. an insecure man that worries about what he is wearing, making sure to wear slimmer clothes, suck your stomach in, etc. LOL I don't lack confidence or assurance about much. I know what I know and know what I don't, but regardless I'm assure of myself.


Insecurity - lack of confidence or assurance; self-doubt: He is plagued by insecurity.

Scars don't hurt, they leave marks. A scar does not affect you after the injury has healed. You see, this is another major difference. When you gain a scar from a burn it teaches you to NOT touch the hot cookie tray again. The scar heals, and you know not to next time but it doesn't hurt anymore, you merely learned a lesson.

You believe in gaining your value from others, we've went over this time and time again, hell this entire thread is all about self-belief rather than using the beliefs of others to create your own value. For example, you care about rejection because it may make you look bad or feel bad. I don't give a fuck if a girl isn't interested, honestly I feel it is her loss.

I agree with most of your last paragraph but insecurities arise from you not understanding your true value. You are as good as anyone else in this world.

Your fears feed off of your negative experiences. You are afraid that girl will reject you like that last bitch did. Your fears are literally based on past negative experiences.
LOL- I have no clue what confidence is but I'm confident, where as you don't have self-confidence yet you can tell me all about it? I know more about developing people and their confidence then you may realize, your thoughts aren't the facts of life. I've developed tons of people further then you're developed right now.
It's always good to seek advice, I won't put you down for needing advice. I will put you down for thinking you know more than someone who needs no advice in an area, this attitude is arrogant.
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Peace and Love,

Vic

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