so this is the PUA lounge so what's better to talk about than women and what men think of women, so my question is what do you all think about MGTOW (men going their own way)

for those who are unfamiliar its basically a group (kinda like feminist) They are men who do not live for others anymore they live unapologetic lifestyle only for themselves. usually men who mess with alot of girls and live a bachelor lifestyle. That means no kids no wife no problems in life. most of them have been hurt by their wives and divorced, not being able to see their kids, not being able to keep their house car etc. they feel betrayed as if society and women don’t give shit about them. They only view them as expendable containers, SPAM machines, and sperm donors for reproduction purposes.

i believe this thought process as kinda true but it does have plenty of flaws...also ALOT of feminist call guys like this "GAY" which is funny because there's usually nothing wrong with gay people unless it's a convenient way to offend, hurt or even emasculate a guy lol

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

guess no thoughts lol

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

What were you hoping to hear? Just sounds like dudes who had shitty relationship and figured they didn't want to do it again. The question I have is why do you need a group for that?

thats something lol and its actually more than that

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

If you want to give up, sure. It's easier.

Or you can improve yourself and get cute girls.

most of them live a life where they talk to and have sex with multiple women, they just see marraige as a stupid idea and other stuff

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

I Live this lifestyle anyway im young free and single to do what i want and not give a fuck about the consequences. I live for the moment like all men should i fuck different girls every other day so tbh i dont think i want a group of guys to do it with i have my friends. We all live the same way but eventually we will get tied down.

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You can fail all your life but still achieve more than those who did not try.

You misunderstand these people.
It's oh so easy to throw labels like "feminist", "chauvinist", "bitter misogynist", "bitter misandrist", "quitter", etc. And thus you go fucking nowhere. Show some empathy.

I believe anyone who has ever been in a relationship with a bad, manipulative, cold person (or a string of them), can remember saying "Shit, you know what? These people don't deserve me, I quit". Going through a fucking divorce with such a person? I don't live in the USA, I can't say what the laws are, but there seems to be some judge bias tilted towards the mother, which is kinda expected (most cultures view the mother as the ultimate caregiver to the child). Paying alimony doesn't elevate the pain from having your kids ripped out from you.

After such an unbelievably painful experience, it's more than normal and even beneficial in a way to have a safe space to vent your pain away, along like minded people. They call women cunts, gold diggers, fat, slobby, whatever - well, let them be. Unless they harass someone, then punish the perpetrators, not the forum itself.

In time, lots and lots of them will eventually process the pain and disappointment and will begin anew, with or without women. The anger will have done its job and will fade away. But if you keep arguing, kicking and fighting them, it won't go, and their sense of being hated and prosecuted as men will only grow.

Leave them the fuck alone.

true true true

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

Ehh, not being tied down with a wife or kids is something I've done and planned to do since I was in middle school. But I would never use the MGTOW label.

While you describe MGTOW as simply a man who doesn't need a woman in his life and doesn't want life long commitment or children, its core philosophy is a lot more than that. It also holds that women are inherently distrustworthy, unlike men who have a natural sense of honor. I feel its a pretty delusional view of the world. Yes, an attractive woman will dump your ass if you're a weak man. But then again, a high quality man will dump a woman's ass if she gets fat or generally starts sucking as a person.

Now if the theory is "fat women are inherently distrustworthy", I agree. I've found decent looking women to be roughly as honorable as men, just with a different set of ethics(plenty of crappy chicks, but that cuts both ways). However, fat women are often some of the most treacherous people I've ever witnessed. It's why I refuse to even befriend fat women. Even the few I thought seemed nice, ended up proving me wrong.

"MGTOW" is really not so far removed from another acronym for "Male Rights Activists" and by and large, they're a group of pissy little bitches who live life as a perpetual victim. You're right, they are the "male" version of feminists.
The guys who use the MGTOW label tend be a more successful version of MRA. They struggle with women, and generally don't like them, but they don't absolutely seethe with hatred for them as MRAs.

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RSDTyler

thanks i didn't see it that way, i thought it was basically men who feel they are happier not being tied down by women and such

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

thanks i didn't see it that way, i thought it was basically men who feel they are happier not being tied down by women and such

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

How a self labeled MGTOW dude defines the differences
http://eruditeknight.wordpress.com/2013 ... w-mra-pua/

Kinda wordy, but he hashes it out better(and more favorably of course).

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RSDTyler

MGTOW's dislike PUA's because PUA's get fucking laid and that pisses MGTOW's off.

Typical MGTOW