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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:49 pm 
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Fclosed an hb8 about two weeks ago. We both made it very clear we are still sexually available, and don't want a relationship. I thought I'd take it one step further and ask her to sarge with me. She agreed. I've told her quite a bit about pickup and she is fascinated. We are going to sarge together next weekend, exchanging my help with her to get new men, and her help for me to get new women. (Although I don't see getting men for her being a challenge. Maybe people are often timid to approach her, who knows.)

My question to all of you guys is: How exactly does a sarge with a woman go? I've never done it before. The only time I've tried to have a girl wing me, (long before I knew about game) she would just burst into a group and ask if they had met me, and say they should talk to me. It was terrible and embarrassing.

Do I still use the same openers? I feel like the dynamic is going to be entirely different with a girl. I want to come in with the vibe that she is my girlfriend/suitress, and then change the frame around when I get enough iois to hit on my soon to be targets.

I thought, "this will be great, she will be able to distract guys in mixed sets and allow me to more easily isolate my targets." Then I thought, "Fuck, that might make the targets jealous and the men in the set will devour all of the attention." So how exactly do I play this situation? She was very flirty when I met her, but after I told her about game she said her filter system and bitch shield has been increased tenfold and she is a little more distant towards new men. I feel like that will help a bit, so she isn't too easy for guys in mixed sets.

Anything is appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:47 am 
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Having a woman with you is probably going to up your game no matter what just because of this simple phenomenon:

Women are attracted to a man who they see that other women are attracted to.

This has a simple evolutionary basis. To be brief, it's because this saves them the time of determining for themselves whether the man is good. The logic is, if the other women are attracted, then he must have good underlying characteristics. By surrounding yourself with women (even if they aren't actually attracted to you), you are making yourself more attractive to other women at a level they have no control over.

tl;dr: yay evolution, go get 'em tiger


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:47 pm 
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I loved your tl:dr tag. I knew about pre selection, but didn't really think about why. Cool stuff, did some research. Thanks bud.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:00 pm 
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A good Wingwoman will Accomplishment intro you like a champ. It is okay if she says you were a good lay. A lot of taboo things are safe with a wingwoman.

I would also work on her AMOG'ing men, and handling Obstacles. After the accomplishment intro, my Pivots also do best handling my obstacles and they also help LOADS with Logistics. She can help plan with places to bounce to or to handle your targets friends cock blocking or dragging away.

Also, the possibility for a threesome is there..

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