What do Women think of PUA?



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:41 pm 
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So when i first got into the PUA community I was hesitant because at first i thought it represented mysoginism among a group of men who try to use women.

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After being in for a while i realize how it is not the case. Most of the stuff that i have learned on here is stuff that when i bounce it off my female friends, they react positively to it and talk about how they wish more men would do things like that.

But I'm just curious... how DO women feel about PUA?

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:00 pm 
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Different women feel differently about it. I've found the common feelings that I've encountered are curiosity or indifference. I think it also depends on what biased preset ideas they have about it, and how upset it makes them to think of a bunch of "nerds" and "losers" clawing their way out from the bottom of the dating pool. I think the one thing that will persuade a woman to like or dislike PUA is if she sees what's being done as honest and genuine or dishonest and a manipulation. The idea of a low-value male sneaking his way into her bed is very upsetting to a lot of women.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:13 pm 
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If you go around saying, "I'm a PUA!", women will assign low value to it, as they should. It belies a lack of social competence to call yourself by that name - unless you're marketing a product and actually doing decent with it (let's put that at least about 20-50% of your monthly income is derived from pickup-related stuff and you make at least 40-60k per year). Before that, all it says to a woman is, "I'm a dude who likes to go out and troll bars and look for women with a funny hat and goggles on, insult girls and magically they sleep with me!"

You have to understand, the common woman's awareness of PUA corresponds to about equivalent knowledge to the common man's - treating women like objects, rating them on a hotness scale, and negging (or other "tricks" - whatever the hell that means) to trick a woman into bed with you.

Now, that doesn't mean if a girl brings it up you should lie. If a girl is like, "You read that PUA stuff, don't you?"

You should just be pretty upfront and like, "Every once in a while, any man who wants to be the best/good at dating would read that or at least check it out." or something like that. Basically make it seem like it's totally normal, and any man who doesn't is an idiot, and you're actually just being smart with your love life - which is all 100% true.

I mostly get this reaction from girls that knew me from before I was involved with PUA - if you sucked with women like I did, the change in the number and quality of girls you get will make -any- woman turn her head and be like, "Wait a second - how the hell did that happen?"

I've only gotten questions about pickup from girls that I had fucked previously before I started it. And their reactions have been overwhelmingly positive.

Saying, "I'm a PUA!" makes you come off as fake. Being smooth and doing things right shows that regardless of how you got there, the end result is good. You can't argue with results, and women know that.

tl;dr:

Don't call yourself a PUA. Ever. Unless you're selling a product and doing well with it.

If a girl asks, don't be coy, but don't be like, "YEAH I READ EVERYTHING, Tyler, RSD, Gambler, Mystery OH HELL YES".

Just be like, "Yeah, a little bit."

Done.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:22 pm 
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I agree with Pikeman. I don't identify to others or really see myself as a PUA. Pickup was a journey for me that brought me to a place of being naturally attractive. Furthermore, I don't purposefully go out and pickup women anymore, it's just something that happens while I'm doing other things in life. However even if I was living a PUA type lifestyle, I wouldn't identify as one simply because it would give people a false impression of who I am.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:22 pm 
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I'd just like to add that generally women might have an idea - especially if you ever talk to them about attraction triggers or anything like that (I find it fascinating, so I do sometimes), but they're not going to out and out ask you usually. Why would they want to know that? To some extent it kills the "magic" of knowing how you get to be so amazing. That's not every woman though.


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