Ok, every PUA should understand the "body language thing". But for you who does not know, here is some brief info.

I. BODY SIGNALS.
So, here are two basic grops; OPEN and CLOSED. *see also http://www.becomeaplayer.com/bodylanguage.htm

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This is simple. If a woman "opens" herself to you, it is a good way, she likes you. She feels comfortable (around you?).
Signs are, for 4xmpl: Open and visible palms facing upwards/towards U
Leaning in, in your way
Head tilted straight, not looking down/away
Legs uncrossed (of course if she wears mini-skirt, she can't do that)
and any other way of taking space, not unlike a confident man)

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If a woman is closing herself to you, it means one thing; you are not coming in. She feels uncomfortable. It may be seen when you neg a girl.
Examples: Arms crossed on chest
Arm gripping
Anything used to create barrier between her and you; a bag, flowers, anything,
Beware! Crossed legs also fall in this cathegory, but they are signs of sexual interest too. When the legs are pointed towards you, its good. When away, she is closed.

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II. Other signals.

These are mainly subcouscious signals, so they are most honest ones. A great one is dilated pupils (the black part of eye). When someone sees something he likes, his pupils dilate. That is impossible to avoid. But beware! On different light, eyes may be dilated already (in a dark corner of a club) or not dilated at all (when disco light flashes), so watch out.

You may also use "eyebrow flash". That is something someone does when
he sees something familiar what he likes. There was a study that proved functionality of this flash. It is easy to make, just raise your eyebrows for a split second.

Also; wich way women point their feet, that is their interest point; when its pointed towards you, you are doing some good game.


Other signals are; Hair flick/head toss, wet lips and pounting with mouth slightly open, self touching, limp wrist, exposed wrist, fondling a cylindrical object (glass 4xmpl), sideways glance over raised shoulder (e.g. Marilyn Monroe), rolling her hips/pelvic tilting, her handbag near you/in close proximity (this is a good one, it is subconscious and greatly visible), shoe fondle, and leg/knee pointing, or the famous leg-twine.

And men use the opened signals + displayed crotch. Use it to your advontage, maybe to figure out who AMOG likes the most (and disarm him more efectively).
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OK, this is it. Just a brief look at thing.

*PS: Buy "The Definitive Book Of Body Language" by Allan and Barbara Pease, that is where this stuff came from.

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Sweet. Allan Pease gots a sweet ebook also.

I'm going to throw this question out there because this is a hard one to figure out:

I'm a "Friend Zoner" with a few girls I work with. I've hooked up with a few girls at work in the past. There is this girl I work with (HB10), we've worked together for 4 yrs, have lunch in the cafetria together, go out on smoke breaks together and sometimes talk outside of work sometimes.

Now it's complicated: about 2 yrs ago I told her that I liked her and I have
feelings for her (I know!!) but she told me that she doesn't date guys she works with. Ok, fine. Thats all good. Things went back to normal, neither of us felt weird after that, everythings cool, we talked and even joked about it. But now, she'll touch me when she talks to me, flicks her hair, shoulders are in pointing at me when she talks to me. Now, she may have been giving off these signals the whole time but I never picked up on it because I didn't know how to read body language at the time.
(Still learning).

We talk about personal things that only friends talk about, she tells me about guys she dates, I tell her about girls I date and so on and so on...

Now, my question:

If you're in the "Friend Zone" does body language and signals still apply or does that mean she is just comfortable?

Her words tell me no, but I think her body language is telling me "Yes"

I sooooo fucking confused on this. Help me out here.

general rule of thumb...if you're going to throw the HB10 comment out there, please show a pic. I have yet to meet an HB10 lol

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LOL!!!

Ok, I'll down grade her to an (HB8)

Good looking girl though. I'll see what I can do about posting her picture.

Now, help me out here, damn it!!

Well, it is very complicated. Mostly these are signs that show that someone cares for reciver. Now, if she has been pointing leg towards you, it can mean nothing, because in present, woman crosses her leg a lot - and pointing towards you can mean that you only have her attention. Body signals are read in "sentences"; no signal means something on its own, it depends on context. There is also voice tone; try to focus on it and hear it out. Just don't take anything for granted, because you may make a wrong assumption and blow it all off. Maybe you could try to make one of your female friends watch you and HB8, she could tell you better.

Also, from my expirience, if you tell a girl that you are interested in her sexually and she blows it off, from now on everything you do she will watch from the "sexual" way - so she may subconsciously send these signals. Thing is, you may be an "ego - booster", that means that she has you as someone who she has only to boost her ego with knowledge that she is sexy enough to have you. And so she sends these signals simply not to lose you. (This is why you can not be effectively friends with a HB who was once your GF.) It is only a theory, but I think its right.

BTW, I would respond sooner, but goddamned forum didn't let me in.

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