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magicaljet
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:03 pm 
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OK.... I went to the club today and there were mostly 9's and 10's all around..

I was using the peakocking method and the dance methods... but then when I tried appoaching girls with negs they blew me off...

They would respond like "so" or "ok"... so I ended up leaving...

For example,.. I was taking a picure with my wingman and some random 10 happened to put her face in the picture.... I told her "hey why'd u do that u made the picure look bad" she told me to go fug-myself and left...

This happened through-out the whole night...

I dont know what it is that im doing wrong....

I need a good approach for a 9-10 with a good opener....

Advice would be appreciated because everyone wants to know...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:23 pm 
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"hey why'd u do that u made the picure look bad"
i think this was too cocky ant too little funny... maybe you must find a better balance .. make your sentence a little funnier so that the HB have a doubt how you mean this sentence..

you dont have to insult sb. severely! make jokes, jes neg them, jes but not be a asshole

what think you other guys about...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:42 pm 
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It's one thing to Neg. but don't be completely insulting. I'd take that as an insult. Do you blame her for telling you to Fug yourself? It's important to be a gentleman to, not a complete Dick.

But hey...like the old saying goes: "We live and learn".

Cameras are great things. Read my "Professional Photographer" post.

That could have been an "In" for you Bro. You could have said "I see you like your picture taken" are you a Model? and went on from there, and that is opening for conversation.

Insulting right off the bat isn't going to get you anywhere except her saying "Fug Off" and going back and telling her friends and pointing at you and saying what a Dick!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:19 am 
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Haha, yeh you used to make the same mistake i did. Theres this awsome thing someone posted on this site ill post it here.
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Negging:
..Verbal negging..

Nice eyes, especially the left one.

Your tall, I like tall girls, are those 4 or 5 inch heels?

I like your dress, she's wearing one too (points) that's the second tonight.

Your nose wiggles when you talk.

What's that fragrance? (Listen for answer) That's nice I think my granma wears the same.

..Physical negging..

Pretend that your going to backhand slap her.
Pretend that she spat on you by accident when talking.
Hit her with a straw, or something harmless.
Caveman her (Regard your own strength, never overdo it)eg. push her, make her walk into things etc.

..Reminder..

When negging you must calculate the damage as a prerequisite (before/prior) to delivery of the actual neg. Calibrate the response with a hyper-focus and use damage control. Remember that a neg is to prevent her from stealing the frame, running her bitch/protection shield, or running shit tests and whatever crap she might get away with... Negs are not designed for you to be an asshole with. Whatever problems arise, deal with them. The idea of a neg. is not to insult, but to gain respect, that you so rightly deserve. Bear in mind that a cocky and funny frame is helpful for negging, maybe along with "I am the leader" or "Women respect me" frames. Also bear in mind that negs are better used with HB10 and nothing below HB7+.. so neg appropriately.

..Rules for thread..

Please post a neg. don't post one that's already been posted, we'll make our own database or whatever.
Please give any hints or tips you may have with regards to negging.
Please give detail as to what frames you feel are suitable for negging etc.

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NEG must be done with a sincere smile and fun, if one these were not complete, then NEG wasn't really NEG, it was a disrespect to her, COLD disrespect so she told you to fuck yourself ;)
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Hi all , long time...


Magicaljet try not to open with a NEG , But in the case of your line:

"hey why'd u do that u made the picure look bad"

I allways use that and it works really well , but maybe you said it the wrong way , you have to smile and send with your body language the statement that you are joking... and also check your voice tonallity .

IIn clubs I allways try toa void dancefloor and I allways use questions or opinion openers to open and then try to isolate with some game or anything.

So my advice is :

Go out , practice.
Don't open with a NEG
Use an opinion opener or even a situational opener (weak)

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Hi all , long time...


Magicaljet try not to open with a NEG , But in the case of your line:

"hey why'd u do that u made the picure look bad"

I allways use that and it works really well , but maybe you said it the wrong way , you have to smile and send with your body language the statement that you are joking... and also check your voice tonallity .

IIn clubs I allways try toa void dancefloor and I allways use questions or opinion openers to open and then try to isolate with some game or anything.

So my advice is :

Go out , practice.
Don't open with a NEG
Use an opinion opener or even a situational opener (weak)
Thats the first time i heard not to use a neg opener...

But what kind of situational opener or opinion opener I can use,,,

Can u give an example...

Thanks
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I'd say it depends on the situation. I'll let xfman give you his opinion.

In that situation here is what I'd do,following more in my last response:

You: I see you like your picture taken. Are you a model?

Her: if her response is no (never know she could be)

You: Well I'm going to send this to FHM magazine's 'Who the Hell are you?" and when the world picks up the magazine the intruder will be found! That will get you started on that new modeling career.

If she happens to be a model:

You: Well that explains why your not camera shy. Let me guess...your a model for.....Guess? LoL! :-() Did I guess right?

Her: no

You: well, I just took a wild Guess. Who are you a model for?

And the rest is yours to imagine....

Have fun with the situation. The Goofier you are and make her laugh, the more comfortable she will feel.

Situation roleplay helps me improve my "Game".

Go get em Tiger!!
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Hi MagicalJet,

I feel ur pain, brother. Hang in there. You got the right idea... just need a bit of fine tuning.

I tend to like to start with openers that have a DHV story attached to them. You might wanna try some of the more common ones I use below.

You: Hey, can I get ur advice on something... it'll just take a sec.

HB10: Sure. Wazup.

You: Me and my friend (female wing) are kind a new to the area and we're trying to hit up all the fun clubs. U see, we both just graduated. Do u know any?

NATURALLY OPENS THE DOOR TO 2 OBVIOUS POSSIBILITIES:

- Possibility 1:
HB10: I know this new club ***.

You: I'm not too crazy about that club. Last time I was there, I saw these two really hot girls fighting... (we've all heard this story).

- Possibility 2:
HB10: Just graduated, eh? Where'd u graduate from?

You: Oh, we just graduated from UCLA. Biology major. I'm studying to be a doctor... (and so on).

Hope this help, bro. But most importantly, hang in there man. Over the past 4 months, my game has gotten stronger in certain settings, but I still think sarging solo in a club is one of the most challenging settings. Impossible? No. But very challenging. We all gotta do it.


Respectfully,

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Yes, You can open with a Neg , but you might take a negative response.

In my opinion It depends on the situation but I think is better to use any opinion opener... and I'm basing this on the M3 (correct me if I'm wrong, please) but NEg's are used to put Bitch Shields off and to DHV and are used at A2 , and not on A1. Remember a C&F statement and NEGs aren't the same.

Anyway you can say anything , you could just say....

2 openers I just thought about:

:arrow: Okay so you want to take a picture with me okay , I just love to take pictures with my Fans :lol: (hold her and take a picture and just move on into something else. (tell a story, Ask her something , anything).


:arrow: Hey this was our photo but anyway, Let me get your female opinion on something ...

You could also add something like , At least buy me a drink , you ruined an amazing photo with my friend :P

Bonus : :lol:

:arrow: Okay now you owe me 5$ for the picture

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