Hey!

I dont understand this... Dont u think all the picked up gilrs will remember all these famous routines and openers we all use all over the world?
I mean if i want to pick up a girl with the ESP or the cube routine and she has already been picked up by another PUA with th same routines, won't she say: " Oh, I already know this routine" or something like this?... What are u going to tell her then?
I think all the girls who have been picked up are like "used" for the other PUAs in the world! We never know if she has ever been picked up with any of these routines before...

I hope there is a solution for this...otherwise it would suck

Greets Joker

Theres a simple solution: dont use old routines, make "new" ones by varying the existing routines, or dont use other peoples material at all (goooo juggler!).

If you get the "oh ive heard this before" thing, i assume you can just go "oh yeah? i just learned it and wanted to test it out. what did you think of it?" and build the convo onwards, maybe reverting into a story of one time when two girls used the same line on you once, unless thats percieved as a DLV...

Not really sure. But at least thats an indicator of using some more personal stories and routines, instead of other peoples material from now on .

The essence of hitting the nail on the head.

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It's not very likely that a girl will have this happen to her, let alone remember it, but if you really want to make sure, say something like "hey you know what the cube is?".
Or if its a routine, just say "oh you must have met my friend, what did you say to him?".

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I agree with the first two guys.
Just be original.

Find out why the canned routines work, get the ideals down,
and you can easily create new material while maintaining those ideals.

Instead of focusing on on exact words with routines,
I focus on what each statement represents, and where it's going...
DHV's, IOI's, IOD's, negs, etc.....
and then create new material with the same general formula.

Eventually it'll become natural, and you'll make up stuff on the fly.
And when you find yourself doing that, it feels so fucking good.
You know you're there.


Along with what Jaxin said, with the cube and everything,
you can just ask if they've heard of the cube, blah blah.
When I run into someone who does, I may still run the routine anyway,
or I just talk more in-depth about "the cube" in general.
Of course, I think "the cube" is awesome.
Not even as a pickup routine... it just interests me.
So I can continue a conversation about it cause it's not just another bullshit routine for me.
You should actually have a little genuine interest in what you're talking about.

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I second Element. Good answer!

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Hey Joker,

I think we're okay because the ratio of PUA to AFC's is roughly 1 to 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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There are some many AFC's out there it hurts me to count.

Besides, I think even if the girl knows the routine, the courage to carry it out iis what's important.


Respectfully,

M