Hey everyone, it's a pleasure to join the boards and thanks in advance for any responses.

I'm pretty new to all of this. I'd like to think that prior to reading The Game a while ago I had some okay natural game, but have only been employing pre conceived methods in the field for a short time. Anyway, here's the question..

Last night a large group of (male) friends and I hit a some bars and eventually a nightclub for some dancing, drinking and general messiness. Sarging wasn't really the point of the evening, it was more of a 'lads night out' as it were but I did manage to slip away and number close two of the barmaids, one of which led to a kiss close during her break. Great. What's challenging me however is a girl I managed to number close outside as everyone spilled out into the street at closing time. I'd seen her get thrown down to the floor by a couple of random blokes fighting one another. I paced over to check she was okay and once I'd helped her up and noticed she was attractive (HB8) naturally I started to neg her something chronic. Her friends were looking to climb into a taxi as soon as possible so I knew I would have to be efficient. The exchange was fast and intense; she seemed to thrive on the negs and genuinely delight in being teased. Around seven minutes later she was strolling off having given me her number.

Okay, so earlier this evening I decided to initiate some text play with her. Initially I just sent some generic playful message, to which her reply was prompt and promising (playful, asking more questions, clearly seeking to continue the exchange). After a bit of back and forth, teasing one another etc I decided to indirectly elude to some kind of meet up. This time there was a long delay. When her response eventually came the flirty tone was still there but it was obvious she had deliberately dodged what my message was suggesting. Very disappointing. Anyway, although I knew she'd understood I texted her to inform her that the intent of my previous message was to instigate a meeting but that she'd missed her chance and I might see her around. This time the delay was even longer. Finally she texted saying she was really sorry but had been "dumped three days ago" and was "not really in the best place" but was "sure our paths will cross again".

So, I guess my question is what the fuck? Is she being genuine? I know that in some cases recent break ups can make girls MORE receptive to advances so my gut instinct is that this is just an excuse. Does her behaviour suggest the meeting suggestion was premature perhaps? Did I come across needy? Or was five minutes of contact time insufficient to establish a decent enough rapport to pull this kind of thing off? If she IS being genuine, can I overcome this hurdle and if so how?

Thanks again for any opinions. I'm just pretty pissed because she really captured my interest and I have no desire to respond to the texts from the barmaid I kiss closed (who, ironically, had ALSO just split up with her bf).

*Sorry for posting this twice, wasn't sure which was the correct section*

You should have called her to arrange the meetup. Not text.

Move on. This is great.

The best sarging is when you are out having fun with the guys.

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Thanks for the reply matey, I'll remember that.

Quick follow up question.. I can see how phoning her instead of texting would have made it more difficult/socially awkward for her to avoid or refuse the invitation, but would it really have altered how much she WANTED to see me?

It has nothing to do with that.


Calling her shows you have confidence and are not afraid of talking to her.

Texting her is like sending a note to ask her out. It is weak.

You never want to go out with a girl because of obligation, what would be the point of that?

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Double Your Dating by DD
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http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

Yeah I agree, that's kind of what I was getting at. I get you now. Thanks!

Is there any chance that you can more specifically post the texts that you sent her? I would guess that you didn't disarm yourself enough, or at all.

i have to agree about texting being kinda weak. you have to be willing to have the balls to call her. chicks like that. i never send a text before the first phone call. i only send texts in between phone calls (sometimes). its less threatening to be "kinky" in a text message.

You may have discovered my mistake DTM. When we were fooling around in the street, I zipped her head up in her hood and pretended to kidnap her. She enjoyed it at the time and was giggling alot, but I used the word 'kidnapping' in a text the following day as a euphamism for meeting up. Thought it was pretty funny but guess it must have been too forward.

She did end up texting me again a day later asking if I'd be out that evening but I was busy and that wasn't a strong enough sign to reignite my interest. Just want to maximise the amount I learn from these little slip ups.

it sounds like she's testing your confidence.. i dont think she trusts you yet.. if i were u, i would reply "yeah i understand, u are invited here but promise to behave"