I am like 5 minutes away from killing myself. I NEED TO GO OUT AND SARGE or anything having to do with girls but none of my friends are going out tonight, and its too fucking weird going out to a club/bar by myself...or is it? I don't know.

I am at this point that I am obsessed with women and sarging and its taking over me slowly if I miss a day.

I need some words of help...



-nick

I know how you feel bro. Sat night is like prime night to sarge and my friends out out doing other things. I just got MM and the game in the mail today and I am SO pumped and have no where to go. I'm gonna have to be content with my studies into my two new bibles.

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I think I'm actually going out now with my fellow sarger from here lol. Well good luck with your bibles. Listen, don't read TOO much of them. Read them bit by bit and practice whatever you read at one time. Don't take in everything at once. You'll just forget other details...

peace

-nick

I'd say just reread it and get it ingrained.

I find it really depends where you go, as to whether or not going out alone works well. There is a pub downtown that I go to sometimes that is great for going alone. I just sit at the bar and meet random people, walk around a bit and open sets and its just fine because of the setting. The club we went tonight on the other hand is terrible if you don't have some good friends (ones that don't fuck you over by taking off to do their own thing, or stand in the corner while you talk to people) for social proof. Again, its all about the setting and the mood the people get in to there. That club is very loud, has a lot of pushing, shoving and jumping into people while on the dance floor and the rest of the club is just packed in tight and hard to move mostly. This makes it hard to talk to people easy, causes people to be less friendly because they are on guard and they tend to come in groups themselves and so people get paranoid because you never know who is carrying a knife or who will punch you in the back of the head as you walk away.

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i open sets alone. THE ONLY TIME when i need someone is when i need a wing. When i see there is a CB then i ask my wing to open a set with me. Other than that its all me. Your're right, now i wouldnt want to go anywhere alone unless its in the day, That you could do. At night you do need social proof. Once you step in the club BOOM all eyes on you and who you come with. Sarging can get addicted, haha but to some thats a good thing. Just dont be mad if you dont go out on the weekend because your friend dont want to.

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lol i love girls, they are so fun to talk to... anyways, its too late now, but you shoulda went out alone last night, at the club you coulda met a group of people (men) and sarged with them, or you coulda solo'd. i solo a lot, its harder and builds my skills much more than having a wingman. sometimes i prefer it.

If you can't sarge alone, you aren't at the "alpha" level yet. When you get there, you'll know it. Being able to sarge alone is an alpha characteristic. The alpha male isn't co-dependent.

When sarging alone, open a male only set first, just to get yourself in a conversational mood. DO NOT open an all female set first. They'll sense you're a little nervous and things will just get ugly. Open all male sets first, get yourself into a good conversational mood, then open mixed or all-female sets.

The three second rule is bullshit here. You walk into a bar by yourself, a little nervous, and open the first female set you see...you will most likely get blown out and things will get worse.

You will almost never get "blown out" of an all male set unless they're really a bunch of co-dependent beta males. Address the alpha male of the group...you'll know who it is because he'll be the one who's accepting of your conversation attempt. Once the alpha male of the group accepts you, the other males will accept you too. He leads, they follow. Just how it generally works, whether they realize it or not. 80% of the time, you can use a sports opener and things will just flow naturally from there. I usually talk about my new found education on "female psychology" (aka pick-up) and teach them a thing or two. It's a great conversation usually.

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Yeah I know, alpha game isn't me yet, its just so hard to get that mindset of not giving a shit. Ugh.

WHOAHHHHHHHH WHOAHHHHHHHH.

First of all, the 3 second rule DOES work. Sure, you probably WILL get blown out of the first group of girls. BUT, who cares, because if any other girl in the club SEES you IMMEDIATELY walk to a set of girls right off the bat, that's immediate social proof, as long as you don't get a really BAD reaction from those first girls. You just leave with a smile.

Plus, the 3 second rule also applies to each and every set you walk by WHILE in the club, not just when you enter it.

DO go sarging alone. That's how I did it THE WHOLE time I was getting my feet wet my first COUPLE OF MONTHS. It's good for you man. Feel free to PM me if you need to.

3 sec rule is beginner stuff, doesn't apply for more advanced game.

Once you get over the fear of approach you don't need to rule. In fact, most PUAs would prefer to wait a bit more and plan their approach.
As for the social proof- make eye contact. Showing a girl that you aren't afraid of her with EC is just as good, if not better, than making an approach. Plus you have half the approach done before you even walked up to her.

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Anyone can walk into a bar and pick up a random girl.
The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

You would have to be pretty experienced to do this:
First walk to a big group of guys 3 or more
Open a set with them and do it so you make them feel like your one of them.
Then say this how much you want to make a bet I can get that girl, if you help I'll let you have her friend.

Successfully get the girl and you have a new wing.[/quote]

Welcome to the forum Crasher.

Your going down a very dangerous road. One where the only way you feel you can judge your worth is by how many girls like you. You wanna know our secret of getting woman: You have to realize that you dont need woman. Woman dont validate you! Who cares if some HB doesnt like you. Does it make you any less great of a person? No. Remember this quote: "the difference between success and failure with woman is indifference." If your obsessed over them, girls will pick up on your neediness faster than you can blink and youll be spending another night having a threesome with palmela handerson and vaselina.