i think this is a major part of my game where i make mistakes, whats the best way to respond to HB's giving you kino? and i dont just mean what to say i mean the attitude to be having/thinking. Some examples of the kino i recieve, pokes in the back or side, touching of arms, rubbing hair, some are pretty ridiculous and childish (im not complaining i like being kino'd no matter what) But what are some good ways to react?

Kino them back.

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thanks, my instinct tells me to do that. can you help me think of any ways to go about kinoing them back? like some kino examples that would be appropriate to be doing after a simple poke in the back or arm grab or whatever. like i can handle it in alone scenarios but when a whole bunch of people are standing around and she comes from behind and does that (for some reason thats the scenario almost every time lol) im not going to just throw my arm around her. ideas?

It depends on how they kino you, when, and under what other circumstances.

If they kino you to be playful, say pokeing or hitting you after you neg them or say something funny, then you should respond positivly. Kino back if apropriate or give them an IOI back.

If they kino at an inapropriate time or with the intent of making you look silly, they are trying to DLV you in much the same way an AMOG would...examples would be messing up your hair or hitting/pinching you in front of others as a show of dominence. If this happens use the "hand off the merchandise" line in some format, toss a neg at them, "WoW you hit me hard, whens your next boxing match, ill come and watch.".

If they kino out of the blue, trying to be seductive or playful...well the right answer is probably to react with a "hands off the merchandise" response...but its your call. I had a girl come up to me and run her finger down my chest then motion for me to follow her...i smiled at her, chuckled, and stayed there...in the next 15-30mins i prob had 4 other girls come over to me and either be in proximity or try and talk to me/touch me. Sometimes it might just be a test to see how easy you are and other times it might be a genuine seductive IOI.

So in short basically it depends on the situation, you should intiate it as often as possible without being that "touchy/feely" guy, and should return kino when its apropriate. GL HF.

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I'm just gonna say: Put your arm around her!

I'l actually tell you how too aswell, Make sure your arm goes around her waste and touch the frontish side with your finger tips. Then depending on her reaction you can move her either in between your legs or take 2 steps back and take back your arm hold her hand for a second and take it back.

alright thanks for the ideas, when should i end the kino? say i put my arm around her or her waist and pull her in and were just talking with other people in the group when should i end it? should i be smiling at her or looking at her as i pull her in? (specific questions i know but i just want it to come across as natural as possible)

Yes, it really does all depend on her reaction and the situation. Ok, Ka and 3 hands gave you great advice on the first part.

Now, for your next question . . . as far as ending it, you could either push her RIGHT BACK away, which would in turn make her want more if she is interested in you, or you could let her stay there a bit, but not just hold on to her forever either. If she's smiling, obviously that's good. You don't HAVE to smile back. You don't have to look at her either, but it will really help in order to read her better. If she's leaning her head back against your shoulder, as in trying to get closer to you with her body language, most likely there WILL be a nice smile on her face, and that's a good sign and most likely means she's looking for a kiss. It doesn't mean you HAVE to kiss her right then and there. Again, it depends. You can if you're ready to kiss her, or you can make her wait. Just don't make her wait TOO long because you want to keep building the attraction. You could use that to actually TEASE her, by getting your mouth close to hers, then taking it away. If you do hold her, I'd say at first, at the most pull her close for a minute and then let go a bit. The more she's close to you, the longer you can hold her.

This last weekend I was at my usual club and was dancing with a couple of girls and they actually seperated a couple of times. Well, toward the end of the night, and one of the times they were seperated, one of them came up to me, when I wasn't on the dance floor, got in front of me physically, pushed herself up against me, and started dancing with me. She leaned her head back against me, as she had already a couple of times on the dance floor, so I teased her, but didn't quite kiss her. Then I moved her back to the dance floor. Then her friend joined us up there. LOL, one on each leg of mine.

So, it depends on each girl, so you have to read their body language.