Hey guys, BlackBull here (For the new guys, I'm a mPUA in traning who busted his ass just like you guys, and for the old, glad to see you again).

Figured since this is my last post, might as well get to the point:

I've seen some great potential here, and at the same time, people who are looking for quick fixes.

Not tryin to hate on anyone, as that is the last thing I want to do, but lately, the influx of many new PUAs have seemed to end up asking repetitive questions and show that they arent even approaching.

It's ok at first. You need to learn all you can, and that's why we have the many books and programs made by the many PUGs out there. But hey guys, there comes the point where progress needs to be made, and most have shown they cant hack it.

I've looked at many new posts while here, and I've seen many new guys that have potential, some that need to work their asses off and ascend, and, unfortunately, a few that are, as I like to dub them, ASS CLOWNS.

I'm not name dropping (You know who you are), but hey, it comes a time when it's time to pick up the ball and play some heavy offense.

So here's my bit:

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TO THE ASS CLOWNS(Those who show they dont give a fuck,and consist of:Women haters, people who try to blacklabel pick up, and immature, mindless idiots):
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You're not hopeless. If you guys analyze yourselves and change, you'll be fine, and will have everyone's support. But, as will be the case with most of you, most of you in the ass-clown department will bitch and moan on why pick up doesn't work, or that women are evil demons out to rip every dick off every man, or the guys who start shit just to justify their own actions; please, do the people who actually care a favor, and GET THE FUCK OUT! This is a place for improvement and ascent, and we dont need your emo-ridden drama. Go talk to someone trained to help your problems (Psychologist, Mommy and Daddy, yourself). Come back when you grow a pair of balls and decide to take the challenge of CHANGE.

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TO THE rAFCs AND PUAs-IN-TRAINING:
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Keep at it guys. The road to becoming succesful with, not only women, but in life, is ridden with difficulty, strife, self-doubt, horror, and pain. ONLY after you can cross that pain period, will you be able to truly ascend and rise. You guys are the ones who care, and help your fellow brothers ascend with you. Eventually, you, will one day bear testament to the truth of social dynamics, and the pursuit of happiness itself. I wish you all the best, and one day, will come to enjoy sharing joy and fun with many women on earth.

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TO THE EXCEPTIONAL PUAs and POTENTIAL mPUAs:
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PM me.We'll talk. .

That's all from me.

I wish you all the best of luck, and that you will continue to grow and ascend.

Also a shout out to Xfman for keeping this forum steady, even though the Ass-clown gallery is making it harder for people to gain leedway in here. Keep it up Xf.

Semper Fi folks. (I'm no Marine, but there is SIGNIFICANT MEANING in those words).

Peace...for good. .

Good post. We didn't like you anyways!

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Perception is Reality

Well, shit. Well if you feel the need to move on then by all means. I can understand when you help people and they just dont learn how frustrating it could be. You can feel that there is nothing you can do for these people and also that there is nothing else to get out of this community. As MM says, you will be repelled from people of low value. If thats the case then I think I understand, your beyond us. Good luck bro.

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"Responsibility for our lives is something we never lose but which we often deny... You can blame whomever you wish, but you’re the one who must experience (or endure) the results." -Steve Pavlina (http://www.stevepavlina.com)

I would just like to add to all of you who are serious about becoming good at this, it takes more than just routines and structure. If your not prepared to change your whole life for it then this isnt for you. There are no quick fixes to get you that consistent lay.

When you tell a good DHV story you go to your past and re-tell stories in a different light, highlighting your alpha/attractive qualities.

What alot of people dont realise is that you need to stop doing that eventually, and start living your life as that ideal person!

You can PROJECT beening the leader of men, or pre-selected. But untill you start living your life like that. Not only will you have countless hours of storytelling but you wont even need to think about it when you tell the stories. Internalization.



Some people might think ok, i want that. I need to be the best. But where do I go now from learning from all the Gurus.

You go to the field. and you improve your game. You scavange the internet for any useful posts and build up your own specific game. Understand whats really going on in the social interaction. The movements of values, the social proof. Learn whats a real social dynamic and what is a short cut to improve a part of that social dynamic. For example:

NEGS--
I love using negs, but to be honest they are not necessary. There absolutely great but there there to create a GAP from her value to yours quickly. When you start a set you start with a assumed value (ie she guesses from first appearance your value and vice versa) soon though you raise that value through dhvs/confidence/cf and you aim to create a big enough gap by raising your value to create attraction. Attraction = value gap. She is now attracted and wants to asscend with you up that value ladder, she now seeks to climb up to you (called validation).

Now if you DHV well enough you dont need to NEG at all. But why not right? It QUICKLY creates a gap by lowering her value and raising yours. So dont get too worried if your not negging correctly. In the long scheme of things its not helping you but doesnt mean you have blown the set if you dont neg.

And fuck it, if you think the attraction is lowering and the gap is closing and your not ready for equality (comfort/trust zone) then neg her or DHV. Everything in pick up follows a somewhat similar structure. Attraction - comfort - sex. But you also need to remember that when your in comfort the attraction value battle is still raging, just in the background.

So work hard. Push out of your comfort zone everyday. Its hard work and its really tough. Especially if your on your own. Dont be fazed! Its all possible! It just takes time and alot of hard work. And if you dont believe me, ive been sarging for half a year now alone. I live in a country where if i go to a party i will not only be a minimum of 4 years younger than anyone else but there will be 3-4 HB's id actually consider for closing. And after all this time its only now that im finally rolling around in VIP status at clubs and f-closing 9's. I havent run into a 10 yet though. Blackbull is no different. As far as i know he too is 18, now in collage and wingman less. He worked hard aswell! And still is. Nothing is more rewarding when you know that everyday you are becoming a stronger individual.
I was no better than some of you when i started. I asked stupid questions instead of searching. But i soon learnt my lesson, and pushed my self. And I had to be told that. Some of you dont even need to be told! If your finding it tough, its all possible your doing better than I was!

So i hope this has motivated you guys a bit! Im still around! I will be posting more on the holistic view of Pick up later on

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Ratio theroy...

i will have to say congrats for becoming closer of mPUA. I hope your not bored of this art. Sonetimes i feel like im dedicating to much time learning the art. Also going out sarging the thought of it sometime bored me. I always want to challenge myself and my game so that keep me going. Also when I see a HB my mind change and boom game on haha. But I do get bored sometime. You are probally at that point when you know so much and want to help those in need? Or you probally past that stage. Well whatever it is good luck in your journey. Also the game do help out your life you could apply it on so many things other than just p u. Hard work? Hell yea haha but its Really fun when you start. Im done for now. Artist

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Life's an Art

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Sad to see you gone man, even in th 2 months that i have been reading on here i have noticed the influx of ASS CLOWNS. Guys who claim to be the best and give wrong advice to promising candidates. Guys who make accounts as women to gain attention. Guys with so many posts in so little time i swear they dont leave the house.

I spent mabye 2-3 weeks on here reading info and reading ebooks and taking notes and woking out. Trying to improve myself, then I met up with a few of the PUA's around me and I got out and started trying to put this stuff into use, the first few were hard but each time I got a little further. And in just 2 months I am lightyears ahead of where I was.

Thats why my amount of posts per day has drastically dropped, not as much theory and more practice. But i wish you well for whereever life leads, and with a stack of PU knowledge under the belt al parts of your life will seem more rich and successful.

I just hope i will be that good.

Carpe Diem

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'Oh my, you sir are the Moriarty of self awareness and personnal refelection'

What a title!

I think the thing that bothers me is that people want "game" served to them on silver platters. That and they have no patience or willing to work at their trade. It's like they want to read a few "neg lines" and run out and use them and wonder why it doesn't work for them. They don't want to put in the time and effort to learning the material and practice their skills. I just take it as a culture issue where we are so used to a "fast and now" type world that we want things right then and there. Thats' one thing I did like about the MM forums. They pretty much lock those types of threads and put them into a collection called "Jive Turkey Droppings".

To BlackBull:

I don't know what to say, there are a lot of things I learned from you, there are a lot of we shared and we spend great months together in the forum.

I don't know everyone else but I think you were a great guy that always tried to help and one of the fews that have the capacity to learn quickly.

So I don't want to give a long speech , so I will just keep it short and just Say Goodbye Bro and keep me updated on whats going on on your life, whenever you can.

Peace.

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