Brief recap then I'll get to my question. This is the second girl I picked up after reading through most of "The game" and was extremely new at this. I found that I had great results and loved doing it as I'll get to meet all sorts of people. Having been new and not found these boards I was testing my limits on the system. One night I got drunk and took it a little to far with this girl and really pissed her off and haven't spoken to eachother since. My question is it possible to comeback from this? I'm not all that interested in F-closing this girl although I wouldn't say no. I'm wanting to use this girl to help open sets, I found out that she frequents a bar where I live fairly regulary and knows tons of people there and by having her on my team she could pretty much open every set in the place. I saw her at the bar this past weekend and this is how it went.

*I approached her first to apologies for being an ass, I wasn't to concerned with DLV'ing myself in the beggining b/c see definately wasn't going to come speak to me*
HB is playing pool with 2 older guys and her friend at the time

Me: So you ever going to give into your pride and let me apologies?
HB: (looks at me, turns her back and ignores me)
Me: Okay..(turn and start to walk away)
HB: Alright, Alright..
Me: Look I'm sorry I was such an ass that night I'm not usually like that.
HB: It's okay I'm not usually a bitch
Me: So can we play nice?
HB: Sure (huggs me then sucks on my neck...)

Was a little thrown off by this but I act like it's no big deal and make a little small talk with her and her friend. They're both playing pool with the older guys and I start to notice there is a little to much time between conversations that I'm starting to look like an AFC. Fortunately I was there with a friend (not a PUA) who was just sitting at a table by himself so I walkover and drag him into the set. I decide that the formalities are out of the way and start running the game again and didn't work so well.

(still playing pool after she had missed her last shot)
Me: You sure you know how to play this game?
HB: (Smirks and goes to take her shots which she goes and sinks 4) Looks like we're winning..(smiles)
Me: Well looks like I put my foot in my mouth on that one you play like your one of the guys (wink)

(Later in the game she scratches on the 8-ball)
Me: Is that what you call winning?
HB: What the FUCK is your problem?
Me: (little shock on my face) Hey I can put my money where my mouth is, not my fault you scratch.
HB: (moves in to sit in the chair that I'm standing by)
Me: What you going to steal my chair now to (smile)
HB: Your seat...I was sitting there before you got here. (sits down)
Me: I think you just like being mean to me
HB: I think you just like being a smartass!
Me: (again stunned at the comment. I didn't reply to the answer but made some expressions that yeah so I am..(

At this point I talked with her friend for a second, told my friend I was ready to leave, which he agreed. I went to bathroom then left without saying goodbye.

SO...that being done I think that if I can get back to the comfort lvl with this girl the attraction is definately still there so F-closing isn't out of the question but not my overall goal with her. Do you think it's possible to reconnect with this girl well enough to use her assistance and if so what would be your attack? I've only got about 2 months until I move back to Dallas and I'm trying to work on the dynamic's of a solid pivot before I get back.

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~Surreal

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"Why do we fall, sir? So that we might better learn to pick ourselves up."

Yeah it is possible. STOP Negging her!!! You can only neg so long before it is not so cute or witty but downright annoying. It is time to take it to the next phase A3 and above. If you are in the Mystery method do the Bait, Hook, Reel, Release.

You should really choose between making her a pivot or and FC. She is not going to like having sex then being pawned later to get other women and ultimately work against you.

-Envy

Completely agree I think I'm going to have to weigh the situation when it comes around. Do to the fact she was making out with my neck I maybe stuck moving it f-close but I'm going to work on comfort as much as possible the next time I see her. I decided to through in some neg's cause I thought it was needed. We had only meet once before and tried to get a day 2 when I made her mad so. Which now of course I see was a large mistake.

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~Surreal

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"Why do we fall, sir? So that we might better learn to pick ourselves up."

I went through the exact same thing when I started studying pick-up. I was WAY too cocky and it was killing my sets. They were in to me and I was still being a dick with too much cockiness but I didn't realize it. All I needed to do was start a little qualification and move into kino/comfort.

The real trick is to make them wonder if they could get you. They want what they can't have. Being too cocky repels them.

I only do one cocky gambit now, just enough to kill any potential pedestals. After that, I usually don't need any more pedestal killers because they sense my confidence.

Cocky should be used very carefully in my opinion, especially if you drink when you sarge.

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Later,
Alphagame