Hey guys, wondered if anyone more experienced could help. I'm a bit of a newbie but enjoying getting to know different techniques in the field. However I get the feeling to improve quick you need an old-hand to show you a few things, not to mention point out where you're going astray. Apart from the workshops (which I and the large percentage of the world's population can't afford) how else can we get experienced guidance? Have already signed up at PAIR btw. Any ideas would be v much appreciated

If you do your homework and you understand the technical aspect of a woman's mind, go ahead and dive in..... everyone goes through it at some point, and you'd hate to miss out on the hilarious stories that will inevitably result.

It's good to go out sarging in groups with more experienced guys just to keep up the morale and get you started with a confidence boost. But you'll do fine without it. Go out there and get shot down until you don't care anymore... and when you finally don't care, that's when your game will soar. And who knows.... maybe you'll find out you've got some natural in you and you'll have a jacket full of numbers your first night. Either way, its a win/win.

EXACTLY. Man, I've gone out myself almost every single fucking night I've sarged. It doesn't matter. Even when I DID have someone with me, LMAO, they had NO idea of what to do, so I actually did BETTER by myself! And, hell yes I've been shot down, dragged through the mud, had my confidence fucking BLOWN for the night and shit like that, BUT just like shankle said, when you DON'T FUCKING CARE if you get shot down or not, it WON'T MATTER ANYMORE, so your game will start to soar. When a girl pulls away from me now or ignores me now . . . OH WELL! There's two or three or more girls just a few FEET away that HAVE NO IDEA what that girl just did. So, MOVE ON.

just a tip, when you get shot down, dont just stand there. thats the worst thing ever. try to just open another group or if you have to go to the bathroom or stand outside for a phone call until you have recollected yourself. standing around or looking butt hurt is DLV for any other girl in that room