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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:15 pm 
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This is gonna be a deep post. I was about to post it in the PMZ but whatever, all of you guys could benefit from it.

Almost all of us have thought that hey, a man can never understand a woman. Those of us that havent have thought that a woman can never understand a man.

After spending almost 3 years in the PU community and in field and shit I have come to realize one thing. It is not really that difficult.

It is just a matter of experience and ability to understand other people.

Lets start with the basics. We all need to eat sleep and reproduce. But we cannot perform the reproduction procedure alone. We need a partner.

Biologically the women will give birth to the child and the man is gonna protect it. At least that is the way it was before. So in some societies women still wanna align themselves with men who guarantee the optimal survival chance for her babies and men wanna be that man.

The differences end there.

The rest is simply a matter of how many options you have.

In general, women will never have to spend their nights alone, they could just go out and have any guy if they lower their standards. When they say that nobody wants them, they mean that nobody that they want will want them. Men have to spend most of their nights alone because they cant get anyone. Expecially not the ones they want. Sad but true...

Are there exceptions to this rule. Yes, there are.
You know the guy that can get all the women he wants, hes like 1 in 100 right. the reverse is true for women, 1 in 100 cannot get a guy even if they lower their standards.
Yes I know that the numbers are off but lets say 5% or whatever, it is not important.

So basically 1% of the guys are in the same situation as 99% of the girls.

These guys are considered to be generally attractive, girls go for them. They have the abundance mentality. 99% of the guys have the scarcity mentality.
99% of the girls have the abundance mentality and 1% have the scarcity mentality.

If you have an abundance of something it loses its magic, its power over you. Thats why so many men feel powerless when it comes to seduction.

Women, being the target has to be selective, she cannot spend all of her time on every loser she meets. She will decide immediately if the guy is worth the effort or not.
This is no different from a guy with choices, its useless to go for anything but the best. Maybe there is someone better out there, why waste time on someone that is not optimal.
Women have another problem, most guys are desperate and scary, they are much stronger than her and can get aggressive if they are pissed off. If you form any kind of attachment (like talking to them) you open yourself up to the possibility that they will think that she is interested and have to set them straight. That means, she risks pissing them off. And if she does that, all kinds of trouble can come from it. Most guys cannot take rejection. It is sad but true again.

So how do I know this? Well, I started out as one of the 99 guys and after 3 years of PU training I have gotten into the 1 spot where I have choices. I have had women approaching me, women begging me to fuck them, women throwing themselves at my feet and women so seduced that it was a pain to get rid of them. I seem to form strong connections very quickly so I have had problems with ONS girls wanting to have a relationship. Basically stalkers which is the equivalent to guys not being able to take rejection.
I am NOT BRAGGING!
I tell you this because it is true. I dont care about what kind of respect I might be searching for, this is not the point.
The point is that I wanna show you that I have been and I am in the same position socially as many (99%) of the girls out there. I wanna show you that I know what Im talking about.
I wanna tell you that it is very different from being one of the 99 men. You quickly adapt to the fact that you have to be selective. I am extremely selective. I have been known to just walk away from a set that was going exceptionally well because I didnt wanna waste my time. I would get sex anyway that night so why bother. I have been known to lose opportunities to have a new girl in my life because she wasnt good enough to replace one of the ones that I currently have. I have been known to reject a girl just because she was getting to interested.
The last one is interesting because it is the same as a girl not wanting to get too involved out of fear that the guy wont take rejection later on.

After you have reached this point your mind changes. You start seeing things in a different way, you start reasoning in a different way. Other peoples perception of you changes too.

It is not a matter of men not understanding women. It is a matter of unattractive people not understanding attractive people. Or people without choinces not understanding people with choices. Scarcity mentality not understanding abundance mentality.

When I discuss pickup or relationships nowadays (except when I am talking to you guys) I prefer to talk to girls and girls who are players. Exceptionally beautiful girls that have choices. Because they have the most to give me. They are the only ones that can give me some input. They are the only ones who truly understand what I am trying to say. Guys just say like, Hey who understands women anyway? Thats no longer true.

I came to this realization when I realized that I am playing with girl rules.
My female friends started seeing me in a different way. They stopped treating me like a guy and started judging me as they would judge a girl. I was no longer one of the guys who had no idea what he was doing "Hes just a guy whatever, what does he know?". They started treating me in the same way they treat other girls with choices "Heres what you should do, what do you think about this, etc etc.".
Ive gone from being one of the guys to being one of the girls.

So guys basically, the man-woman difference isnt really that big, it is just a matter of your mindset. Scarcity vs abundance mentality. Thats all there is to it.

I hope this will help some guys feel a little less frustrated with girls, think of them as mPUAs, that helps.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:20 pm 
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If you have an abundance of something it loses its magic, its power over you.
So true, I've been sarging before and just made an excuse to leave despite not even getting blown out, because at the time I just wanted fun and if I really wanted to have sex that night I could just go round my fb's.

When I was an afc I used to get nervous around women and get all pent up, I used to be insanely attracted to them. I haven't been that attracted to a girl since I realised I had passed the point where I get more sex if I don't have a girlfriend than if I do.

Does this mean I am not aiming high enough or what? I don't believe there is a girl too good for me.

Sorry if this seems like a bit of a hijack, delete this post and PM me if you wish, just what you said made me realise this!


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I do agree that women and men are the same, were just people after all. And that fact that pick up seems easy is because real players are scarce..
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I disagree about the numbers, as you said men and women are the same, you will be amazed at how many women are unattractive or socially retarded and can't get a mam.
Think about it, we can at least become more social we can train, we can be cool. But if a woman is ..lets say... fat, she's fucked (unfortunately not literally), if a man is going to be sexually interested is because he has a fetish and she knows it, or she will hook up with low self esteem guys who don't believe in themselves.

real PUA are like very attractive women, which are not that common as you might think (or maybe I have became to selective too)

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You make some interesting points here. However, there's a reason why some people have scarcity mentality and some don't.

They have it because they don't know any better. They have a lack of experience to prove to themselves which mindset is the right one for them.

You gave a basic overview and piece of advice of what mindset should be applied to men out there. That's good enough. Some people don't even realize this.

But there's an addition to this. For those people that actually have a scarcity mentality, gotta realize that the one and only true way to replace that mentality with abundance - is experience. It's not enough for a person to be thinking a certain way as opposed to actually doing something about it.

In other words it's exactly what you said (scarcity versus abundance) but in addition - experience.

"Oh noooes..... I tried changing my mindset to abundance, but it doesn't seem to work! There are still no girls that want me ... *turning on emo-mode*".

Well buhu... DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Don't sit around thinking that answers will magically appear out of the blue. Make your mindset come true - don't just keep it in your head and hope for a change.

My reply is rather obvious, but I thought I would mention this just to make sure the point has been made properly.

Ezo, bless your post. It's good.

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However, there's a reason why some people have scarcity mentality and some don't.

They have it because they don't know any better.
Well, yes. The thing I wanted to stress was that it is difficult for people without choices to understand people with choices. I dont agree that people with a scarcity mentality doesnt know any better, I just think that they dont have an abundance of girls. So basically, as you progress, your understanding will increase automatically.
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real PUA are like very attractive women, which are not that common as you might think (or maybe I have became to selective too)
Absolutely, most of us are wannabees...
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I disagree about the numbers, as you said men and women are the same, you will be amazed at how many women are unattractive or socially retarded and can't get a mam.
Think about it, we can at least become more social we can train, we can be cool. But if a woman is ..lets say... fat, she's fucked (unfortunately not literally), if a man is going to be sexually interested is because he has a fetish and she knows it, or she will hook up with low self esteem guys who don't believe in themselves.
Now you are talking about yourself as the average guy. But you arent, you have some choices. You arent nearly desperate enough to fit the profile of the people I was talking about.

I say that a girl can get fucked easily. All she has to do is to go in to whatever bar or whereever there are guys and get naked and say I have no diseases fuck me its for free.
If any! ANY! Girl will do that, there is gonna be a loser who is ready to fuck anything and anyone. A friend of mine told me a while ago that she has a gay friend who claims that if a guy gets desperate enough he will fuck even another guy. I believe that. Just think about prison gays.
There will always be guys desperate enough to fuck any girl no matter how ugly or how fat she is.
It just depends on how low she is willing to go.

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However, there's a reason why some people have scarcity mentality and some don't.

They have it because they don't know any better.
Well, yes. The thing I wanted to stress was that it is difficult for people without choices to understand people with choices. I dont agree that people with a scarcity mentality doesnt know any better, I just think that they dont have an abundance of girls. So basically, as you progress, your understanding will increase automatically.
I may have put it in the wrong context previously. It's BECAUSE they don't know any better (i.e don't have any tools for picking up women, or don't apply those tools properly in field) that they gain a scarcity mentality - I didn't intend to refer to them as "stupid" or anything like that.

This is because, in their eyes, almost every woman they approach - reject them. It gives them a false image of "nobody wants me", which eventually builds up to a scarcity mentality. If only they had more experience, they would know better.

That's basically my point of "they don't know any better". Hope it makes more sense now.

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Makes absolute sense now.

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