Against a really really good PUA about 80% will go for it with him (total guess)

Attraction is not a choice, you push the right buttons and her emotions will carry her away...to your bed.
I know exactly how powerful it is, ive been working on my speed reading, i can read in glances, a paragraph at a time. Once you realise that only your beliefs are holding you back you can do anything.

There is so much you can acheive from it.

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Ratio theroy...

Gun, may I please have the October Man stuff and the other forbidden NLP stuff?


I'm already a pretty good talker with women so I know that I'd be able to pull this stuff off somewhat well.

what does speed reading has to do with the ability to use those patterns and with your NLP level??
I will totally agree on that one

The way I see it thats not enough to use them succesfully. You must know advanced NLP to understand every line of the pattern and its impact in order to use them effectively.(those patterns were what triggered my interest for NLP in the first place)

Anyway, how can i share them with you?(once i get home at my pc)Should i post them?

Go ahead and post them, and also if you can suggest some good NLP books to get myself started, I would appreciate it.

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The Fire of Prometheus beckons the willing.

I got into NLP before i got into pick up. Ive been practicing for about 3 years now. I taught myself to speed read through NLP, its just my current goal thats why im using it as an example of what you can do. yes goal. if you were into NLP for the proper reasons than to score a 15min blowjob by persuasive languange and embedded meanings, while messing with her submodalities, you would be writting your own. And not lecuturing me on what NLP is used for.

I wana see these 'forbidden' scripts so i can see what they are using in them, so i can do another thing NLP has taught me, modelling. And create my own.

There is alot of shady use of NLP out there, im just as curious as the next guy.

If you were truely into NLP u would know persuasion is such a tiny part of NLP, almost 80% of nlp is directed at self improvement.

And you do need a very advanced level of NLP to reteach yourself how to see. You stare at a paragraph and see one word, you can take in that word and process it. Ive done some deep hypnosis and belief destruction as well as spending hours on hours teaching my eyes to process everything it sees and able to focus on more than word at a time. Im now at a point where i can look at one word on a page and know what the whole paragraph says. I.e. I stare at the word 'hours' in this paragraph and i can read everything within a 2cm(ish) radius. Can you re-teach yourself to read in a radial pattern?

So stop judging covers dude, this is the pua world, anything is possible here.

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Ratio theroy...

Just e-mail them to people. I mean, yeah, I want them, and so do a few other people here want them, but if you were to post them someone could easily register and then download the files.

Words of wisdom right there for ya.

I've even told girls that before and they were instantly turned on by the fact that they believed I knew what the buttons were yet I wasn't pushing them on her (or so she thought).

Its so simple its beautiful

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Do what you love...

Those are some pretty scary odds for someone who just wants a relationship

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The Fire of Prometheus beckons the willing.

First, the octoberman sequence as it is sold is in a PDF format.. unfortunately (And really intelligently) they put it onto picture backgrounds caussing this relatively small document to be turned into a 51meg file. This is, unfortunately, too large to be sent by most email carriers (Atleast as I remember).

As for NLP. Amazing stuff. The most important thing to remember is that it isn't about conditioning (Even though you can thoroughly implant more the more you condition yourself/others...) but it is about the initial implantation.


Just go into your local library and look for NLP books that are NOT self help books. Yes, almost all of them ARE self help. But a few of them will tell you the techniques behind it instead of telling you to visualize a film strip.

As a finality. Yes it works. Yes it is not easy. Yes it takes lots and lots and lots of practice. And NO, I am not good enough at it yet.

EvoJ