Anyone have any tips for what I think is a common platue:

Guys who are really shy and have general social anxiety spend so much time improving their "talking" that they think thats all thats holding them back.

I was that guy that would freeze like cosmo on vh1 lol simply becasue i was the unconfident person who thought every convo had to have a point/reason....

,.,....now i get how to socially vibe for those of you who get what im talking about.



but now that ive "arrived" so to speak and conquered my original problem of not even being able to talk to hot girls:





im stuck: I get to the attraction hook, and then i get stuck in comfort zone....never quite getting to heavy kino....or if i get light kino im not sure how to turn up the heat.

or even worse i peak her buying interest way too early (before kinoing could ever really sustain)

anyone else ever get "stuck" in their PUA trainning at the stage im talking about? its like around 4 or 5 in MM

my problem is i dont go out of my way to meet people, i make them come to me. once they come over though i have no problem speaking with them.


its plateau btw

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the advice I (nsquared) gave to the guy in this thread is pretty much the extent of what Ive mastered:

overcome social anxiety
can talk and approach hot girls
can make girls laugh and create a few sparks (negs, DHV, etc etc)


and ive read a lot of stuff so i get what the three stages of MM are and kino
and k closing, number closing etc

but im just like stuck at whatever it is that comes after the convo part. i have no problems once im getting physical with a girl...im just stuck at that bridge between a "pickup" and getting physical...

im guessing i need to work on Kino/# closing/k-closing

just not sure what to study or what to start implementing...