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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:08 pm 
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Went out into a new town last night (UK) a few HB's a lot of fat ones a couple opened me then cockteased a bit - dragged me to the dancefloor then started chatting to a friend so i politely ejected the scene and went to sit back down. The whole night was a nuicense because most girls were with guys (bf/gf) and my night club game is terribal - I prefer to sarg in bars with quiet or no music where i can convey my personality, doing my canned openers and routines in clubs just seems daft as the drunk girls just wana dance. I had a couple of approach invitations on the dancefloor which i didnt buy into. Outside I sarged an hb6 dvh'd built attraction ( just practising lol) until her friends dragged her off into a taxi!

Does anyone here have any nightclub tips?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:32 pm 
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I'm the same i don't like pulling in clubs at all

what town? just out of interest


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:44 pm 
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hi mate, was in Castleford west yorkshire - near leeds

Tonight im out with a bunch of younger lasses, a mate of mine is dj'ing in a local club (harrogate) and Ill be arriving with a load of females Plenty of drugs and totty to social proof me so Im hoping to get a better result tonight!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:56 am 
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Lately I've been sarging night clubs and bars. But from I've learned that the nightclub game is more showing social proof and being able to communicate with body language. Magic has a pretty good post about opening in a night club by showing that you are having more fun then any of the other guys in the club. I field tested the concept and it actually worked. Once I start dancing with an HB, other HB's see this and want to start getting into the fun so when I approach, they are more then willing to be opened on. I play a lot of cocky funny and cocky playful techniques. This seems to work since most of them our out to have fun and tired of the usual AFC's kissing up to them and buying them drinks.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:52 am 
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the previous poster is right, u hav to convey a sense that u are having more fun than anyone else there, and don't really give a shit. i went out last saturday nite and had my most successful sarge mission to date. not only a lota fun, but 5 #closes. Spoken to all but one since, and that one sms'd me, so it's lookin hopeful.

I totally change when in that environment. Ya gotta hav a mindset like u just won lotto. I just walk around opening everyone, hotties, fuglies, guys. If i see a guy with a cool style (actually any style) i just tell the dude, chat with him, move on. I take my digi camera and use it as a state accelerator, after opening a set that looks OK, i soon get my target to take a pic of me and my wing, the get my wing to take a pic of me and my target, and my wings target and him......and the chics, just take heapsa pics. the chics luv lookin at them, do some C/F, don't show her, telling how bad she looks. when she sees the pic, point out how cool YOU look, and how lucky she is to hav met the coolest guy in the nite club.

stuff like thumb wrestling and rock/paper/scissors work well also. I'm not a great dancer but when a beat comes on i like i basically leave the world behind and dance (here in BKK people just dance whereevr they are), if she joins with u thats a DLV, but even then, don't pay hur too much attention, convey the feeling ur there for yr own fun primarily. Use the dance time to assess the sarge and figure on the next stage.

Whatever u do, don't stay there too long, stay long enough to get reasonable rapport, don't end up hanging around with no game to run, thats a huge DLV (unless there is good kino or good connection, or u think it will be a take away. Personally i like the number close, if i get 4-5 numbers thats a busy week of gaming ahead of me, much better than a ONS in my opinion). My Mo is to run game, get a #close then say u and yr wing gotta go look for a freind. Once again, u should be opening up other sets around you, not with the intention to game them, but to convey that ur a cool guy who can talk to anyone. I always do this and the target invariably asks: 'do u know him/her/them'. This is very important cuz if u get a #close and the target sees u talking to others, it should be clear to hur that it's just yr nature.

Last saturday nite was quite a breakthrough 4me, i've always been a bit slow with getting the #close. i was with a new wing (who i met thru this forum), who was pretty confident #closing, so i thought 'fuck man', if he can do it so can i. My experience is that u can learn a shit load from having a wing. I was blown away by the fact that not one chic balked at giving me hur # (i should point out that my looks are probably average at best, tho i do hav a particular grunge-kinda style. ......and my opinion is that a shit style is better than no style. I think it's important to cultivate some kinda style). Next time i gotta take a small note pad in order to get down some details, when ur opening in the range of 10+ sets and #closing, it's difficult to recall who is who, especially if ya drink like i do (tho i never drink too much).

So if i were asked wot the most important thing is, i would say u need hi levels of energy (of course i'm assuming that the place is rocking anyway, hard to do this if every other fucker is moping about like its an AFC convention). Plus u need a good repatoire of stuff, such as thumb wrestling, if u know any magic this is perfect for club sarging (unfortunatley i don't yet). Much of wot i've posted here depends on yr character of course, the few people i wing with are more subdued by nature........but having said that i am as well, it's just that i came to see that if i wanted to master club sarging, i had to change a bit, so it is possible. I should also mention that I'm 40, so there should be no excuse for those that are younger.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:30 pm 
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Agree with all of the above...
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1.) Biggest Problem is YOU.. you have the wrong mental state.. change it.. even if its a lie, tell your self your a player and all the women are DYING to talk to you like you were a ROCK STAR and its backstage VIP.. the simple fact that you "hate" club PU's means that it is getting conveyed to your TARGETS by your body language, moves, and words.

2.) drunk girls that just wanna dance!?!? omg go after EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM! dancing is like having sex with your clothes on... its not what you do but that your willing to try and have fun doing it. sex with out fun for a woman = dildo.. now obviously we are still having sex so dildos are not doing something for them that we ARE.. thats HAVING FUN. seducing. ect.. GO DANCE! then after a few songs STOP and make EC with her and grab her waist and say "COME with me" and move your hand like your waving her to come with you and TURN AND WALK AWAY! DONT walk to fast but NEVER NEVER look behind you for her.. SHE WILL follow you i promise 80% of the time. Also good test is to when you turn to walk away put you hand behind you for her to grab, if after 2 secs she doesnt grab it then shrug your shoulders up like whatever attitude and pull your hand back.. IF she grabs it then you might as well find a booth or a quite spot and start building DHV and comfort, because your DEFF gonna number close and MORE THAN LIKELY kiss close her TONIGHT if she holds your hand and follows.

When you get out of the dancefloor where you can talk post up on a wall and make her engage YOU.


3.) WATCH YOUR BODYLANGUAGE! its basic, i opened up 8 sets last night and just this morning remembered that my Body Language was SO WRONG! open the set from the SIDE! DONT move around! DONT cross your arms! KEEP eye contact! and most of all remember FALSE TIME CONTRANTS like "i got to go meet some of my friends in a few minutes so i cant stay long..." then go back into an A3-C1 routine...

4.) good luck player!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:36 pm 
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good advise guys thanks, Ill improve my overall game before I go for nightclub sarging!


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