'ello
I've notice my main problem is when I game I do not phase shift fast enough. Sometimes i'll get over ten ioi's and still not pop into the seduction stage. Most the time I'm okay with it because the girl that I'm gamming is actually interesting to talk to. Also the more girls that are friends I have the more social value. But anyways I need to change to the seduction phase on this one girl.
I've seen this girl around for probably a year and I finally approached her. I got her number and that night she added me on myspace. Since then I've been getting a few iois. The biggest would be my last message from her saying how I can borrow one of her books. I want to phase change, how should I do this? I'd say this is a HB8 with intellect who would actually fall for the romance approach. I was thinking something like this:
"I'd love to borrow that book. How about we go out for lunch. I'm usually never this straightfoward but for some reason I'm drawn to you. "

I could do a cocky funny and just say:
"Yeah that would be very nice to borrow the book. Where can I find you?"

What would you guys suggest? I do not want to be stuck in the friends zone with this lady.

I think both cases show alot of interest. It would work if your 100% sure she likes you.. You could do a less straight forward i want you approach. Just say ' hey this Saturday Im going shopping, your coming along, be ready by 2pm '. If she says shes busy thats IOD, unless she makes a specific date, like ' I'm sorry i cant make it on Saturday but monday is fine at 3? would that be ok?' <- thats if shes interested.

So you screening her and your power over her. If she likes you as much as im picking up from this post this is the way to confirm it. Also when you meet her, screen how shes dressed! if a girl really likes you she usually goes to alot of effort to look good. Thats your hint IOI.

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Alright thanks impact.
Heres an update:
This my my final response to her:
"great. you can give me your number, but you have to promise me your not one of those wierdos...hahaa.. thankfully i've met you and i know your not a man trying to be a woman..."

I'm very proud of this and it worked excelent, I wanted to convey that I'm not a internet creep. I was at the book store with some friends and I decided to give her a call since I was in a social fun enviorment. She didn't pick up, I'm not one for messages so I hung up and texted her to call me back whenever. She called back in a few minutes and explained that she thought I was one of the creepers thats been calling her.

I joked about the creepy guys calling her. I recaped our myspace messages explaining that since shes free on thursday or friday we should go out friday because i have work and school on thursday(tried to convery that I am bussy and have worth). I than ask if shes a north or south girl and tell her we can figure out where to go later. I realize I have absolutley nothing to vibe off of so I just say Hey my friend is approaching me I've got to jet.

I get off the phone and my friend mentions that it was very short, i look at my phone and the call was only 1 minute and 37 seconds. My whole point of the phone conversation was to not make plans (even though she was expecting it) but just to build comfort. I wish i woulda just vibed about a book I just passed but oh well. I'll give her a call tomarrow with a planned story to tell.

By the way she has a boyfriend but I'm getting tons of IOIs. When I meet her I'm going to be really chill and when I get one IOI in real life im going to jump to seduction immediatly.

My question though is how much should I try to run boyfriend killers. She hasn't even told me she has a boyfriend, when i first hit on her she was single, now her status on myspace is in a relationship. Luckly her boyfriend was on her myspace and I checked him out. He looks like a complete choad, I cannot beilive this girl is actually with him. I'm not a very cocky person, modest, but I blow this guy out of the water in every category. One thing that he might have going for him is that he is an artist, well I happen to be a graphic design major. My guess this girl is someone who grew up ugly and blossomed into a beautiful and interesting lady and hasnt have the social experience to meet guys.

What should be my boyfriend killer line if she does mention him though?
I've pretty much got or date on friday all planned out. Im gonna do a field report after the date.

Alright i just came back from day sarge, i sarged alot of girls, like 4 - 5.. and i have a fken headache.. must be this messed up shitty Australian weather. Anyway

Theres a few things i like about your approaches and a few things that you need to change about yourself and your game at once.

I joked about the creepy guys calling her
Good. You shouldve told her girls do it to you all the time, whatsup with chicks man? why cant you find normal once? they just wont leave you alone... damit! Tell her that.

I recapped our myspace messages explaining that since shes free on Thursday or Friday
Never take her out on a Friday, saturday or Sunday. Try to make it on a less octane day. General principle. But fair enough!! keep it in mind.

we should go out Friday because i have work and school on Thursday(tried to convey that I am busy and have worth
Good.

I realize I have absolutely nothing to vibe off of so I just say Hey my friend is approaching me I've got to jet.
Good, and say Pleasure talking babe.

I get off the phone and my friend mentions that it was very short, i look at my phone and the call was only 1 minute and 37 seconds. Tell your friend to not give you advice

I'll give her a call tomorrow with a planned story to tell.
What? no! dude no. Just get that date and go on it. Stop building comfort on the phone. Its stupid! Your alpha you have a million girls chasing you, why on earth would you have to build comfort with her so easily? If you have the date take it!

By the way she has a boyfriend
Shes single until she tells you otherwise .

My question though is how much should I try to run boyfriend killers.
No. Bf killers are bs. You just have to DHV and DHV and than i suppose SOI her and she will dump her bf. Tell her stuff like

" Man you know what i can't seem to find a (whatever her features are) girl that does (whatever she does) and that is single! , everyone is alot older and less interesting! bla bla " And make her quallify, say shit like, OMG im like that, or im like this...

Yeh get it?

SOI when you've DHV alot and you got serious IOI. Like, ' i wish i met a guy like you before ' something along the line. You cant try to blow the guy out in the first few hours. DO at least 2 solid dates, i made that mistake with a HB 8.5 Swedish blond gorge.. everything was perfect until i delt with the bf issue and i fucked up. I just got murderd after.. she kept putting I have a bf in the conversation.. which is a clear sweept. So do about 2 days worth of proper DHV. And qualifiers, get IOI's throughout the whole thing, keep negging her, after you SOI turn the cocky funny bs off. Id say on the second date you can go for a kiss, make sure its late at night. If she says ' i have a boyfriend ' say ' we can keep it a secrete '. LOL play into it man have fun!

I'm not a very cocky person, modest, but I blow this guy out of the water in every category.
Thats not your job. Your job is to create attraction between your target. I dont like that mind set, and you know why i don't.

friday all planned out
What do you have planned?

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Ahh were having wierd weather in florida too, all gloomy. Awesome man thanks for the advice. I feel like a douche not replying yea girls call me all the time too like that. Sometimes I hold back on bragging about girls because the past two relationships I've had the women was always so insecure because I had so many strange girl stories to tell. Who cares though, I need to smash that thought. Thanks for the constructive critisism. Your right I shouldnt be focused on showing how much better I am than her bf, i gotta create attraction.. marvelouse.

No. Bf killers are bs. You just have to DHV and DHV and than i suppose SOI her and she will dump her bf. Tell her stuff like

" Man you know what i can't seem to find a (whatever her features are) girl that does (whatever she does) and that is single! , everyone is alot older and less interesting! bla bla " And make her quallify, say shit like, OMG im like that, or im like this...

So I shouldnt dance around the boyfriend subject? I should tell her "I cant seem to find a girl with a good smile and is extremley smart and that is single!" and see where she goes with it? Obviously if she plays with it and pretends she is single thats a HUGE IoI. What if she says oh... Im not single! what should i reply with?

One thing that threw a stick in my spoke was that last night she flaked on me, she was suppose to call me afterwork so we can finalize our plans. I got a message on myspace last night from her asking me to call her tomarrow so she can know when and where for the date.

Friday were going to meet up at a sub shop. Luckly, I'm best friends with two of the males that work there and have hooked up with two of the girls that work there. Everytime I come into the shop they all yell my name and we chat it up for awhile, so i'm going to look like a god in front of this girl.

I'm not going to explain to her that I don't have plans to eat there, we will get our subs and I'll say common lets go to some place more interesting to eat our subs (try to be spontaneous). Down the road is a really nice shopping street with banyon trees and benches. I'll take her to eat here. She will most likley ask me what I do for work and I'll tell her Im a palm reader, I'll read her palms than compliment her on her complexion. I'll probably tell her after what I really do because its really insteresting for girls, I do artwork for music bands.

The main reason this date got set up is so she can let me "borrow" this book. I think at the end of the date i might say something like so if i read this book really fast Ill get to have a second date with you (ie to return the book). Also should I pay for her meal? Its only going to be $7.00 no big whoop and afterall she is letting me borrow a book. What should I say, like im only paying because you were so kind to let me borrow your book?

I wish I had some otherways to get some for sure kino on this lass but the palm opener is all I got and hopefully she will hit me a few times due to cocky funny. If its going well Ill say hey Im having a fun time, lets go window shopping. This place is HUGE tourist attraction so its going to be easy to make fun of everything on sale. After shopping as much as I'd like to offer her to come back to my place I think I'll leave that for another day. I was hoping maybe at the climax of shopping I'll be like wow look at the time, I gotta take you back to your car. Leave her at a state of excitment so she will want more.

So I shouldn't dance around the boyfriend subject? I should tell her "I cant seem to find a girl with a good smile and is extremely smart and that is single!" and see where she goes with it? Obviously if she plays with it and pretends she is single thats a HUGE IoI. What if she says oh... Im not single! what should i reply with?

Yeh dance around it until she IOI, if shes not IOI'ing you than you gotta play with it more as in get in depth. Be like, "its strange, i don't know why im even telling you this, its so bizarre! but for some reason, unexplainable i feel like i can tell you stuff! maybe because we are really similar. But thats not a good thing.

"Why not"

Well, because wed always fight and never get along and than wed have to have hard core sex to makeup, and that just wouldn't be any fun? i mean common!"

If she says i have a bf.
Reply with, "psht, dont get your tits all hard, not like im interested, gawd you love making it seem that way! whats with the ego girl!! you got enough to share all around! *laugh* Can i have some?" So on so forth.

I got a message on myspace last night from her asking me to call her tomarrow so she can know when and where for the date.
Her insecure or trying to take control. Catch her out on it next time.
"omg your so lucky missy, i almost didnt see your msg on myspace, i rarley use it these days anyway, next time make sure you msg me on my phone or something. Not all of us a little geeks like you but its ok i forgive you". Use something like that, thats genuine.. i mean thats directly what i say, and i work around that personally.

really fast Ill get to have a second date with you (ie to return the book). Also should I pay for her meal? Its only going to be $7.00 no big whoop and after all she is letting me borrow a book. What should I say, like im only paying because you were so kind to let me borrow your book?
Your being too keen bro. Let go of your expectations and stop trying to seduce her. You realize saying ' if i read your book ra ra date ' thats saying ' im jumping through your hopes for you? ' whats the point in saying that, itll kill the attraction. Um the meal question. I think you should buy her ice cream or something beforehand so you dont seem cheap, or get her cookies or something. She can afford her own meal.

After shopping as much as I'd like to offer her to come back to my place I think I'll leave that for another day.
Not anytime soon... youll scare her off, unless shes giving you kino IOI's. Like touching you and shit.

Make sure you take her somewhere you find special and tell her why you find it special. And don't take her to a place she has been already.

- Impact

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Alrighty
dates over with and I feel very exhuasted from conversating
We spent roughly two hours togather, ill try to be general

Right when I saw her, she was having trouble finding a parking spot. I said if your crippled you can park over there *points to a handy spot parking*. In the sub place I ask for our meals to go and she looks surprised, I said do you really think I'd eat at a boring generic place, lets go eat our subs someplace amazing. I make her pay for her sub btw, I'm done being a free meal.

In my car I make a joke about spring break. Its spring break down here but there was about 100-150 OLD PEOPLE out in full force today. Maybe they have a secret spring break. I park and we walk to a bench under a tree. Damn she is cute and the weather is really really nice.

I'd say my specialty is rapport. I read into NLP very heavily and I am great at building strong rapport. My problem is I tend to bounce into the seduction stage on the second to third date, sometimes too late. I get some kino by sitting next to her showing the guys I work with. Honestly from there we just have an amazing conversation for an hour. I was enjoying our conversation so damn much I wasnt even going over routines in my head.

It was just awesome to sit down and talk to a girl which I found out we share SO damn much in common. One thing i did notice was just how nervouse she was, when we first started conversing I STARE into people eyes. Through NLP you can tell so much just buy looking at the eyes. Anyways her eyes were wild, as beautiful as they were, she could just not look me in the eyes. She was avoiding looking at me in the eyes at all cost.

She did not mention a THING about her boyfriend and we pretty much talked about everything.

All in all it went decent. I was so caught up in the conversation I forgot to even take her window shopping and goof around with her. My fualt but oh well. I really really really really need to start building attraction next get togather or I'm going to end up in lets just be friends.

As much as i'd like to call her up this weekend I'm bussy. Which I suppose is good because it will show her I'm very bussy and not needed.

Anyways I HAVE GOT to go out and sarge. I havn't sarged for six full days, my last sarge was this girl. I need to get back out tonight before i get one itis.

haha awsome! well done!

- Impact

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ur a fucking legend impact...