as ive said on my other threads i just finished reading "the game." ive been decent in f-closing but the book explained what i was doin right and gave great advice. i picked up an equadorian chick (excuse my poor spelling) about 2 weeks prior actually targetin her friend but ended up w/ her. met her at a club a week later and made out. so on sun a week after that i tell her to come over & watch a movie, hang out & say have to get to bed early so.... so we're on the couch watchin movie makin out, she wont let me grab her tits. im escelating kissing her neck and ear but keep gettin pushed off her tits, the movie ends stand up grab both of her hands and lead to the bedroom. she's like what r we gonna do in there. i say the same thing we did on the couch we just have more room. so we start makin out rollin around i take off my shirt. escalation good keep gettin pushed off her tits, gettin 2 steps forward resistance go 1 step back. shes rubbin my cock through my shorts im rubbin her crouch. she wont let me grab her tits. start fingering her. tell her to take off her pants, she asks why, i reply its easier to finger she says no. i freeze her out works perfectly. she takes off her pants i remove the rest of my cloths. shes grabbin my cock escalation get on top i tell her i wanna rub my cock on her twat through panties. get LMR break through with very short freeze just tell her i want her to b comfortable with everything that happpens. restart take off panties rub cock against clit. grab condom & close. top was on the entire time i got that off while i was fuckin her. very happy to say we was not deformed. im still definately a newbie and my even i wouldnt say a PUA yet, but this shit is all GOLD. i am just tryin to see how to encorporate it with the game i already have.

When you say you froze her out, what exactly did you do? just lay back or something and start talking???

freeze out (i just learned this terminology) is a method of cat-string theory. you r having a great time, in this situation, kissing/touching/fondleling its a very passionate moment. you get some resistance to escalation like "hey i dont know if this is a good idea i want you to respect me." so you just flat out stop everything ignore her for a little bit, turn on lights, turn on TV, etc. The reason it works is u both before were having a great time both felt the passion of the moment. u were giving her tons of attention. now you withdraw that attention and make her come to you. i learned this line from style's "the game" its FUCKIN GOLD (no pun intended) during the freeze out the chick will

HB: why did you stop whats the matter
PUA: i respect when a women says no and i want u to feel comfortable about everything we do. but when you tell me no it really turns me off (she will be on you like flies on shit)

text book freeze out from second lay
it was rainey here in south florida last night, so i didnt go out, i called up this chick to come over. almost exact same situation occured as before execpt she was more resistant to even kissing on the couch. i really had to get her hot to get any attention from her. i did this by kissing/licking her ear. she felt comfortable with me doing this and i knew she liked it. in the bedroom i gave a huge freeze out to get her pants off. we were watching a movie before and in the middle we went to the bedroom. well she said no to taking her pants off. i rolled over gave her the line above, went in the next room and watched the fight between drago and rocky from rocky 4, thats what were watching. she said something she felt like shit. i went back in there and we were banging within 10 minutes. afterward she was trying to use similiar tactics on me from the beginning, i assume bc while we were banging she said "ull never respect me"

hope this helps
seriously a chick comes over because the vast majority of the time she wants sex BUT she does not wanna feel like a slut. make it seem spontaneous like it just happened and make sure she is comfortable

Awesome post T.dude, I couldn't have said it better!
Freezing a female out when they're aroused is like "Catnip to the ladies"! I myself have had LMR issues with females before and since I have been "Iceberging" them, I have had a lot of success.

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