I used to be a big fan of standard ASF routine-based indirect game, but I've seen a huge improvement in my game in the past six months thanks to lots of field work and the teaching of Vincent and Sebastian. They are incredible PUAs and teachers, and I'm grateful to them for vastly improving my life.
My wing for this LR is Lunotick. He's also a theApproach student - he took a bootcamp in NYC about a month ago. He's shown incredible improvement - in a little over a month, he's gone from being unable to approach to f-closing virgins same night. We have great wing chemistry because we were both taught by theApproach, and because we're also good friends outside of pickup.
Keys to Getting this Lay
-Dressing well – subtly standing out, but not peacocking to the
point of looking stupid
-Excellent wing chemistry
-Opening with a situational opener, followed by my completely
spontaneous and direct Natural Game
-Not being deterred by their broken English
-Kinoing right away
-Being playful, making them open up and have fun
-Not wasting time talking to the whole group
-Splitting the chicks up fast
-Turning her on physically with dancing
-Decisively isolating her to a couch
-Maintaining a playful party frame in the loud club, and a screening
frame when it was quiet enough to talk
-Having no weird pauses or moments of indecision
-Tight qualification by giving sincere, genuine compliments
-Making out and feeling the chick up in the club to get her turned on
-Decisively moving for extraction
-Decisively splitting the chicks up at my place
Pre-approach
Lunotick and I roll into Avalon early, around 10:30. There's not too many people there yet. We're psyched though - we've been waiting to sarge together for a month since the last time he came up to Boston, and I want to see how much he's improved since his theApproach bootcamp.
We're both dressed well, subtly peacocked. I'm wearing black pinstripe slacks, a bright blue shirt, a silver necklace and a white and grey hookah shell necklace. I also have spikey tall hair, which makes me stand out more. He's dressed similarly, with a dark purple shirt and nice jeans from Express.
As soon as we step in the club, we start opening girls and socializing. It's a very loud techno club - you have to project strongly and pull the girls towards you in order to be heard. The good thing is that there are three clubs connected, and one of them has a good, quiet isolated couch area.
We are working direct game in the club, mostly with situational openers. Because of this, our opening percentage is low. This is a good thing though - it saves us from wasting time on girls who aren't interested.
This set was our eighth or ninth of the night. By the time we spotted them, the club was in full swing and the dance floor was packed. These girls weren't dancing though-they were leaning up against a wall, trying to look cool.
In the middle of the club, there's three professional dancers in red, white and blue lingerie. I roll up to the girl on the right, put my arm on her shoulder, and ask which one she likes the best. Unlike most other sets, she doesn't laugh at this - she points at the one in the white, and says she likes her, seriously, and asks me which one I like. I tell her that I like the one in white too, and that she has good taste in women and that she'd make a good lesbian. This is a little uncalibrated, she's like "Noooo-" and turns away from me a little.
I step back a little, but still kino, and say, "Ohhhh that's so cute, you're getting all shy already. You're not shy, are you? Because you look so fun." This is a great reframe that I love to use whenever a chick doesn't respond to something I say. It works so well because it shows that you're not deterred by any little tests of your alphaness she may throw your way, and that you've assumed attraction. Also, it's usually at least half-true-when the girls give you negative reactions, it's as much because of their insecurity as because of anything that you did. That is why I also say that they look fun - the compliment takes away any real insecurities they might have had.
She laughs at this, and says that she is a little shy. I laugh at this, and put my arm around her and say that's OK, we're going to have FUN tonight. I ask her if she dances, and she says she doesn't. So I say, you gotta bust out the moves, and I do a little demonstration, which she loves. Be careful doing this though - if you're not coming from the right place, you will literally come off as a dancing monkey. Only do this if you love dancing like me, and you're doing it to have fun with her, not to impress her.
Then, I grab her hand, and make her dance. She dances really dorky, but it's cute. We do this for a little while, then I grab her hand and drag her onto the middle of the dance floor.
This entire time, Lunotick was gaming her friend. We didn't talk as a group at all, which was a good thing because it wasn't necessary. The entire time, I barely acknowledged his girl. To this day, I don't even know her name...lol. Such is the beauty of direct game. Not saying that you should do this all the time, but there are situations like this when you can.
On the dance floor, I've got my hands all over her body. It's such an advantage to be a good dancer at parties and clubs-nothing gets girls turned on physically quicker. Of course, it shouldn't be the only part of your game, but it will help it tremendously. I'm teaching her how to dance the whole time, and complimenting her whenever she does something that I like. We're grinding to the techno, which actually is possible, and I'm running my hands all over her body and saying flirty little things in her ears. After a little while, I take her hand and move her next door to an adjacent club, which had the isolated couch area.
We sit down in the couch area with my arm around her, and now we can actually talk. I tell her that I'm having a fun time with her, and that she must go out to clubs a lot. She says no-it's her first time clubbing. I ask her if she's having a good time, and she says yes, smiling.
I tell her about my first time in a club, and how I was so awkward at first but ended up just throwing myself out on the dance floor and having a blast. This is a good positive story, as well as a DLV which helps her connect with me.
The entire time, I am maintaining a SCREENING frame. This is one of the most important concepts which Vincent and Sebastian have taught me lately. Instead of floundering around trying to DHV like most ASF guys, our conversation is driven by questions designed to screen her for qualities which I like in a girl. I usually ask a question or make a cold read designed to screen her, and then tell a story to explain why I find that quality desirable in a woman. I then qualify her if she answers the question correctly. You can also mix screening with humor/C&F. An example from our conversation:
Dan: You seem like a really fun person, but are you also smart and ambitious? HB8: (in a Korean accent) Yes-I was homeschooled-my parents make me study very hard- Dan: That's good. I'm asking you because I'm looking for a girl who's balanced - who can have fun, but also has her life together. Most people, either they're really studious and study all the time, or they're crazy party dudes and get drunk all the time. I like that you can do both-hey, you don't get drunk all the time, do you? (more playful screening) HB8: Nooo, no-.well, sometime Dan: Uh oh, I think you do! I'm going to have to be like your dad, and spank you when you do bad things like that (said in a gentle, playful tonality) HB8: (laughing) Noooo-.noooo
We talk like this, where I intersperse playfulness with serious screening questions. Screening questions demonstrate value better than any DHV story. With DHV stories, it's usually fairly obvious that you're trying to raise your value if you tell stories with the intention of DHVing. With screening questions, you are actually demonstrating high value behavior as opposed to trying to verbalize it subtly.
At a high point in the conversation, I turn her face towards me so that our lips are almost touching. I look into her eyes for a few minutes, then kiss her softly. She's into it, and it escalates into a full makeout. I swing her onto my lap, and keep kissing her while running my hands up and down her body. My isolation plan is to get her really turned on by making out, and then lead her out of the club with no explanation. It's going beautifully-I'm rubbing my hands all over her body, feeling her tits and thighs and rubbing her pussy through her skirt. Then, I take her hand, and lead her to the door.
When we get to the door, suddenly she freaks out. She's like no, I have to find my friend, I have to leave with my friend, she's staying with me. I'm unfazed by this, I know Lunotick has been gaming her, and that it's on with this chick, and that it's probably equally as on with his. I call Lunotick, and we meet up with him and his girl, and head back to the isolated couch area.
It turns out, Lunotick's chick had a little more ASD and had been looking for her friend. He'd gamed her well though - when we were all together again, they resumed making out on their couch. We did the same, but I don't rub her pussy or tits too blatantly because I know she'll be more shy with her friend there, even though she's making with a guy herself.
After a little while, these chicks are ready for extraction. Lunotick tells them that we're going to get some food, and asks them if they're hungry. A very alpha, solid extraction move. They say yes-so we all leave the club together, and start walking down towards some restaurants in the direction of my house.
It's about 2:00 by this time, and everything's closed. We were genuinely looking for someplace to eat - but there was nothing open. We walk about two miles down the road in the direction of my house. The whole time, we kept the girls apart, and we were playfully flirting with them. I was singing to my girl, and made her sing to me. I told my girl that we were having a race, and starting running down the street. Fun stuff like that.
Anyways, after we pass the last restaurant, we tell the girls I have food at my place, and keep walking towards my house. By this time, they're complaining because they've walked over two miles in high heels-lol. I'm like awww-poor babies-and make a really sad pouty face, which makes my girl laugh. We keep walking, and eventually get to my house.
We're all thirsty, so I decide to make some smoothies. I used to work at Jamba Juice back in the day, so my smoothies are fucking good. But for some reason, tonight my blender is crapping out on me, and it's not blending. So I kind of poke it with a wooden spoon, and when I pull it out, half of the spoon is gone, broken off in the blender. I'm like, fuck, but I don't feel like making another smoothie, so I just blend it more and serve them.
They're good, as always, except they have little woodchips and splinters in them which you have to pick out. We have fun doing it, seeing who gets the biggest splinters in their drinks. I think it was a good sign about how relaxed we were that we could turn something as weird as having a smoothie with woodchips in it into something fun.
I drink mine, picking out a good amount of wood, and then took my chick by the hand and told her I was giving her a tour of the house. She wasn't done with hers yet, but I didn't want to hesitate or break the continuous flow of action in any way. I show her some pictures in my house, the kitchen, and then show her our basement, which is decorated for parties. Then, I take her upstairs "to see if my housemates are home." Nobody is, but of course it doesn't really matter, I take her into my room, and sit down with her on the bed.
My room is really messy, and for some reason Lunotick had bought this huge ass 40 pack of Inspiral condoms and scattered them all over my table. Fortunately, she doesn't notice this because I kept the continuous flow of action moving, but this could have freaked her out because it implies that I am a player who fucks many other girls. This would have been very incongruent with my sincere compliments, and direct game.
I make out with her more, and feel her tits through her clothes. I turn the lights out and close the door before I remove any of her clothing, I used to take some of her clothes off first, but I've found you get more LMR that way. As it is, I escalate slowly, making sure her extremely turned on before I reward her with more escalation. I get no LMR at all. As I'm rolling a condom on my dick, she tells me that this is her first time. I kiss her softly, look in her eyes, and tell her that I'll make it really special for her.
I put my dick in her slowly, and she's like, it hurts, it hurts. I tell her I'll be gentle with her, and slowly start moving in and out. She asks me if I like it, and I tell her I love it, that she feels so good. She says that it still hurts. I'm trying to go slow, but I'm used to railing on my girlfriend, who loves to be fucked hard, so I'm finding it difficult. After a while, I'm able to move at a halfway decent pace, which still hurts her, but she's turned on enough so it's bearable. I fuck her in a few different positions, then cum inside her.
Afterwards, we cuddle and talk. I tell her that I really like her, and that this night is really special to me. I fuck her again to ensure conversion, then we go to sleep in each other's arms.
For some reason, I wake up really early. I wake her up and fuck her one more time. This time, I can move at a more normal pace without hurting her as much. Even though the sex hurt for her because she was a virgin, I think I solidly anchored myself to sexual pleasure for her, and that she is well on her way to conversion, more so because I was her first.
It turns out that Lunotick also fucked his chick on the couch downstairs. This dude is really incredible...his chick was also a virgin, and was giving lots of LMR. He told me that he had to take her panties off about four times, but he just plowed through it. People were walking in the front door and through the living room where they were in, and he just kept going and banged her anyways.
We all get breakfast together the next day. I #close my girl on the subway, and Lunotick and I head off to the Boston Lair GSF to do some more sarging
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Total time from approach to lay was approximately four hours.
I think my girl is well on her way to conversion, and is definitely girlfriend material. I've set up a frame of Mutual Value Escalation with her, where we do things together cooperatively. I pay for some things, and I tell her to pay for others. I will help her do something when she needs help, and in turn she helps me. She's very submissive, and isn't going to question me because she's not my only girlfriend.
Again, the keys to getting this lay were:
-Dressing well – subtly standing out, but not peacocking to the
point of looking stupid
-Excellent wing chemistry
-Opening with a situational opener, followed by my completely
spontaneous and direct Natural Game
-Not being deterred by their broken English
-Kinoing right away
-Being playful, making them open up and have fun
-Not wasting time talking to the whole group
-Splitting the chicks up fast
-Turning her on physically with dancing
-Decisively isolating her to a couch
-Maintaining a playful party frame in the loud club, and a screening
frame when it was quiet enough to talk
-Having no weird pauses or moments of indecision
-Tight qualification by giving sincere, genuine compliments
-Making out and feeling the chick up in the club to get her turned on
-Decisively moving for extraction
-Decisively splitting the chicks up at my place
I hope this Lay Report destroys the following limiting beliefs:
-That Natural Game doesn't work in loud club environments. -That you cannot game chicks who speak broken English
I'd like to thank Andres, who generously got us VIP passes for the club even though he couldn't make it himself. Once again, I would like to thank Vincent and Sebastian for everything they've taught me - without their instruction, I would not have gotten this lay. I would especially like to thank Vincent, for showing me that it is possible to game chicks who speak broken English, when it frustrated me so much previously. And finally, I have to thank Lunotick for his great wingmanship and give him props for the huge improvement he's shown in the past month. It's been incredible dude, and I look forward to the next time we hang out.
-Dan
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