I cant say I used 100% game but I got a lay. This would be the 2nd in two weeks but the 1st was accidental and I think the second was a little more game.


First I want to explain that I think I got gamed by this girl that was probably a 4 or 5 due to her being kind of fat but cute. I just wanted to hang with her and get drunk and hoped she would introduce me to her hot friends. I ended up hanging with her gay friends and she told me we would pass out at her gay friends house and her and I would share the same bed but she said she was not interested in anything. I was already riding with her (I dont have a car) so I was like whatever and as the night wound down I got super drunk and woke up next to her naked.... I cant say I have had one of those experiences before (where you wake up and look at the girl next to you like damn....) until now, but it feels flattering to know a girl planned the logistics, bought me drinks, and took advantage of me LOL! She wanted a round two the next day but I denied her... no attraction.

So I was trying to break into this social circle of girls that party from work. So I did the cube on this one girl and became friends with her and we hung out about two weeks ago. Yesterday she sent me a text letting me know if I wanted to drink after work. I previously found out from the other girl I slept with that she was telling people I had a crush on her, which is not true. We hung out and drank at a bar across the street from work. We had some fluff talk and got really buzzed from some saki bombs and then decided to leave. We talked later and she was telling me that she only liked me as a friend, and I said thats fine because I feel the same way, and I think that shocked her. She kept telling me how she liked me as a friend and I kept telling her "look I really dont have a crush on you like you think" she kept telling me "dont lie" I was like "no I dont think of you like that at all". During this conversation at the bar she paused and puckered her lips so I playfully kissed her and she did not turn away. I assume it was some kind of shit test and I cant say I was even really trying to game her. I then told her "there- we got that out of the way, I only like you as a friend, lets go".

She was too drunk to drive so she gave me her keys. (guys, I dont have a car or a lot of money, so game is possible even on a budget) We decided to go to a bar by her house and she told me I could sleep on her couch because she was to drunk to drive me home. I was like cool. We meet some HB9's at the bar and the set opened us. It was awesome. My friend started grabbing my arm and pulling me close as we talked to them. One had a BF and the other she number closed before I could so I just played it chill. We had one drink and went out side to talk to them. I ran the set and I think the girl I was with was to drunk to really getting into the conversation but she was still talking. I did very well with no anxiety talking to two super hot chicks so I think I am really improving in this area. We decided to leave and go drink a little at her house. While on the road she kept telling me how she liked this guy at work. But she didnt get in to details until we got to her house. We shared a little wine and then she sat close to me and we kissed, and then she was like:

Her: No we cant do this, I like this guy at work (I will not use his name).

Me: Okay thats fine

Keep in mind she kissed me. So I do a freeze out and sit at the very end of her couch while she sat on the floor at the other end of the couch where we made out.

Her: But no, come here.

Me: Okay...

I run back and then take her top off and continue kissing her and neck biting.
She was really turned on.

At this point I should explain the whole time she kept talking about how she liked this guy at work and how she had been dating him. I even told her I had a krush on a girl at work and that I wanted to sleep with her other friend. So guys, just keep playing the game and you will get there. NOTE: Play it cool like you dont need or want it. Im pretty sure this allowed me to get the lay.

So we stop a few time and I freeze out and keep sitting at the end of the couch and she jumps on the couch next to me. So we mess around a little more on the couch and stop and she kept telling me she would not sleep with me and I kept telling her that is cool with me. I'll pass out right here - good night!

She seemed annoyed that I wouldnt try, it was so funny. So we smoked on her patio and started making out again and ended up in her bedroom. She kind of dragged me in there and it was on.

After we did the deed, she started to tell me that we would not do that again and she kept telling me that she loved this guy from work. I was like cool, you need to be with him. LOL - It was funny and at this moment I realized I used to be the AFC on the other side of this situation...

She did reinforce that she was single and could do what she wanted so I dont feel bad at all. He broke it off with her and she described him as this nice guy... (AFC). They are trying to see each other again, from what she said and she told me it would not go any further than that...

So she started to say how she should take me home and it should not happen again. That was last night and I just got home this morning.

So I played the kissing game just to see if I could get one more lay from her last night and it worked! This is the game where you get as close as you can with out kissing. She lost - LOL. So we ended up doing the deed in the shower on the couch and one more time this morning before she dropped me off. She is totally cool and kept telling me it never happened. And I am totally cool with that.

I now know, even if the girl likes someone or is dating someone, it is absolutely still possible to get the lay. She is not girlfriend material to me and I think she is pretty cool. That was some good sex and I know she enjoyed it. It was casual and mutual and it was a first time in my life I felt good about it with no one-itis! I usually do that even with a casual encounter (which I dont have many of.....yet).

I hope this helps some guys understand that even if you are in the friend zone you can break that barrier. LOL

You totally outgamed her man. Great job. Keep up the good work and feedback !

Thanks NikAFC! Im so happy I found this forum. I haven't really got out and tried to open sets so I think this is going to be something I will have to work on. The social circle idea is working like a charm for me now. Made friends with some women last night and im working on developing a social circle with women.

Your advice helped a lot. Normally I would have drank with her and then taken the bus home. I cant say im a PUA just yet but im learning to be one!

Hahahaha it's like American Pie.

Nice game and networking in this LR.

Well played good sir. I like your style. She tried to set traps and you used them to your advantage. Very pro. Check out my post titled, "make out and phone # in 2 minutes". I'd like to see what you think about it and any comments you might have. Cheers.

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Sean Dunn

So, to review, you failed to get laid for an entire TWO YEARS, then got it on with a fat chick who you're not even attracted to. Haha. Then you got a friend drunk enough to take advantage while she repeatedly told you that she's not into you as an excuse not to hook up again after she drunkenly uses you.

Hahahahahaha. That's the saddest thing I've heard all week.

One one hand, I feel a sense of pride for a game well-played.

On the other hand, I found this hilarious.

haha although there are people here that say it's sad & what not, we all have to start somewhere.

Congrats on your lay dude! You can only go uphill from here

Wow dude, Im not gonna argue with you and wish you good luck with your game even though your post is really insulting. I assume you get 10's all the time so good for you. I didnt get the other girl drunk, she actually got herself drunk. she invited me out again and I fucked her a second time but I didnt feel the need to post a detailed post of the second lay. We are both on good terms now and she is like a cool chick friend now. The second time was bad ass... she kept telling how I worked her shit the next day. I just though I might share that. I guess we see things through a different lens. Good luck to you man.

LOL, yup some shit is pretty funny. I knew this one guy that told me you have to get through the fat ones to get the hot ones. LOL

I didnt plan on the fat one but enjoyed the drunk Double D. It was magnificent the second time around.

When a girl strokes your shit while falling asleep you know you did a good job....

Thanks man! Working my way up. I have been approaching hotter chicks lately number closed a few so I am getting better. Im getting there step by step. I didnt think I would get a lay at all in my first 30 days of this stuff. Im happy and I dont care what anybody thinks.

You have a great attitude TXkrush, "I am getting better and better" "I'm happy and I don't care what anybody else thinks" . This is exactly the attitude that all PUA's need to develop. All of the stuff we learn through this site is not just to get us laid, it also serves to improve our confidence and outlook on life. You sound confident and secure here. Small minds will bring negativity your way. Be on the lookout and avoid these people.

Message me when you get a chance bro. We can talk pick up and strategies. I am very strategic when it comes to pick up, we can bounce ideas off of each other. Cheers!

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Sean Dunn

Good work man!

The only thing i'd say is perhaps your actions on the couch didn't match up to the freeze out you were doing.

I make it a rule that if i'm freezing a girl, she MUST come to me and initiate. I'm not going to be her puppy and be called over for a kiss or more. She comes to me. I don't need it, I can get it elsewhere - and that's what my actions tell her.

To say it another way.. I freeze her because of something she's done. So it's HER actions that need to break the freeze.

Other than that, very clinical. Well done

Thanks for the tip bro! I did go to her and I didnt even think about that. She initiated the first kiss then I jumped at her the second time. I'll keep that in mind next time I get LMR.

I gotta say, I really look up to you man. You're learning fast. I look up to people that aren't naturals, because they're the ones that work hard for skill.

Good luck on future sarges, hope you get really good.

Regards.