I think I'm really getting a handle with approaching, banter and everything ..except sex. I'm 23 yrs old and have never had sex before. It's not that I'm not good looking, It's just that I missed the whole "losing your virginity with your prom date" deal.. I feel that it is a big issue with me and it is really holding me back from total success. Don't you think it's counter intuitive to have a very confident guy approach a women, make her laugh a little bit, get to know her, and then she finds out on the second or third date, when she's back in your house,all hot and ready to go, about to lose her panties, that your a virgin and don't know what the HELL your doing? One of the reasons why I came into the whole pick up a few years ago was to lose my virginity.. I came close a lot of the times, but never had the balls to tell them "Hey I'm a virgin". Some advice would be greatly appreciated..

Well, for starters, don't tell her your a virgin. Second of all, there are plenty of ways you can brush up on your skills. Like....watch a porno or two. The only thing I would be concerned about if I was you is blowing your load to fast, which again, is something that can be avoided and fixed.

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meth is right, just watch a couple pornos and make sure u do a lot of foreplay and get her ready cuz ur first time u prob won't be goin for too long. hit up a party and pick up a girl that will take the reigns so that you can just follow, plus if she's drunk and its bad no worry's she prob won't remember,
but practice makes perfect so go for it

well if you are worried about blowing your load, you can always rub one off before you go out for the night

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Of course do not tell her you are a virgin. No point to it. It's not like you have a hymen or something

I'm more interested in what you are doing wrong. I mean, if you have been studying the PU arts, then it should be very clear how to do it. Have you read Mystery's book? That thing is a text book on how to get laid. It definately shouldn't take so long. Hey, we're all here to help, if you need a pointer or two.

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Dont tell any girl your a virgin. She might see you as inexperianced and DLV. Just act confident and you should be alright. And if your worry about blowing your loud to quike, just get some sensation control condoms. That shit will making go for while. Thrust me

dude use your virginity to your advantage. i went through a time period a few years ago where i gave up sex as soon as girls heard this it was their mission to break me. i had so much hott ass thrown at me that i kept using it after i was nailing a few girls. tell the girls but make it seem like its your choice not something that you are embarrassed about and girls will make it their mission to deflower you. but you have to make it seem like being a virgin doesnt bother you and that your cool with it. oh yeah also learn what turns a girl on, make sure you have a good enough foreplay game to get her off and you will rock her world. biggest thing is hold your head high and use it to your advantage.
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That a real interesting take on it, feneix. I think you definately have a point. If you make it your CHOICE then it becomes exciting. You can say things like, "I am saving myself for a really special person. It's too bad, but I think you and I would never work as a couple. I'm tired all all these girls just wanted to have sex with me. I have heart too, you know."

You actually could do a lot with it. Once again, good point feneix!

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^^bold move definitely lol, u can flip it. that can be an effective move no doubt. a few years ago when i was a virgin, and i didnt want anyone to know, and i would not admit it, but me and a couple friends were hanging out with a girl and we were all trying to get with her.one of my friends, said "he's a virgin" to the girl.i tried to act like "oh yea, im a virgin" but saying it sarcasticaly.but she immediately seemed extra interested in me. i ended up losing my virginity to that girl . so it is a bold move, but it can work to your advantage, this was when i was 17. youre 23, so its not like we were 40 year old virgins, so its nothing to be ashamed about...yet.

I like the "I'm a virgin" technique, though I think I'd have trouble with it. Everyone, especially girls, say I have sex written on my forehead. Not that I try or anything, I figure it's just my body language or attitude. It helps, mind you, cause I got away with walking up to hot girls and opening with "shall we hit the sack" (at parties, that is. you'll get a nice double slap on the street)
But for beginners I think that is an excellent technique. Use it carefully and yes, have an air of "I don't care that I'm a virgin". And no, don't use it on bitchy girls.
These were my 2 cents.

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Anyone can walk into a bar and pick up a random girl.
The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

I would very much agree with Ice here. You can strategically masturbate throughout the day to take care of this. I'd recommend once first thing when you wake up, and once an hour before you go; and you should be all set as far as stamina is concerned. As previously mentioned, be sure to hit the foreplay for a while.

I posted because I'm extremely interested in the outcome of this. Not only the 'Virgin sub-routine', but it's mental impact on you and your game. After you lose it, be sure to post a follow-up and see if your confidence is really affected.

On one last note, one at which I will probably be made fun for:
Sex is not the greatest thing in the world. As a virgin I remember portraying it as such. It's not, and to be honest with you; if you wind up having sex with a girl you're not really into. It's possible it might not be *that* enjoyable. I would recommend you lose it to someone you actually care for. That way you not only have an understanding, but an appreciation of it.

Well for new guys you want to make sure your quick with the bra. One thing that can fuck up your night is when you get hot and heavy then can't figure out how the clips work. If you can get the bra off in two or three seconds then your off and running. She will assume you've done it before and you've been with women. Then all you have to do is stick your dick in and do what mother nature intended you to. It's sex and I know your first time is a big deal just try to get lost in the moment. Then after you've lost your virginity you will realize sex isn't that big of a deal.

Frankly I'm not sure whether I would recommend watching porn... There's a whole lot of bad porn out there and let's face it: it's not like the girls in those movies are getting properly stimulated. Most important thing is to relax and enjoy your first time. Don't fuss too much over it, to echo Mystery: 'It's not a big deal'. If you're unsure about what to do then ask her to help you a little bit, let her guide you. You don't have to be a sexgod straight away and generally first times are always a bit akward. You still have to get to know each other and each others bodies, you have to learn to read each other. Heck, some girls might take it a huge compliment you're giving them your virginity. If you want her to know you can always just whisper it silently in her ear and ask her to go gently in a slightly sarcastic manner. It's perfectly possible to keep frame and still admit you're putting yourself in a vulnerable situation...

In the end it's the same as with PUA though. The best way to learn it is to go out there and start doing it. Trust me: it really isn't a big deal. Just go with the flow, some girls will even dig the fact that you're still a virgin.

dude. some girls would love to have sex with a virgin. they like to be in control and like to think that they are giving u something that u have never had in your entire life. if it happens just dnt mistake lust for luv. good luck dude

When it first starts ask her to go down on you, so you can immediately blow that first one, and I don't think you will have a problem keeping it up cause its not like your old or anything. So after you're done, just quickly stick it in.

So maybe, start with foreplay so she's ready right afterwards.
then say "Go down on me"
then poke her

As for your quick load excuse, maybe say something about how you ended a serious relationship and hadn't really thought about dating other girls. If she starts prying into that relationship tell her you dont want to talk about it. If it was true, you wouldn't want to talk about it anyways.

You might want to read some articles on having sex, or just in case she asks you to return the favor. Giving girls oral. Fuck, I had to read an article to giving girls oral anyways, I didn't know anything about the female anatomy, but I knew I was doing it wrong and I never wanted to ask them for advice, cause thats chumpish. Turns out I missed a key part of the female anatomy .'/

And thats what I would do. Ya porn sucks for sex education, Sex is like kissing. Mostly its about a rythym. It's not like people are good and people are bad. It's just that some people work well with eachother, and some people dont. But ya, there are some people who are just naturally good at kissing and fucking, but really thats just about reaction time and be responsive to the other person.