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Thanks and I will. I really need to get over my anxiety. I'm doing everything possibly possible just to lose it.

But I also know that many hot chicks which uses a lot of makeup and having a perfect body thinks a body is one of the most attractively thing in a man.

Take a look at jersey shore.. Season 1 they aren't very famous, but still they get chicks home, mike "the situation" is showing off his abs to make the girl likes him.

I can as my self say that I never had the balls to talk to one of the hottest girl in my school, but when it got summer I just took my shirt off and she came up to me suddenly and told me that I have a nice body.... She was so hot and sexy that I almost got a boner lol. Although this happended for 2 years ago. But still, I think having a sixpack and a well ripped body is a good advantage to pickup girls, I just don't know how to use it good.

Thats why I'm studying all these PUA materiale. But I still can't find a book or a method that are good for me, only the gunwitch method, I haven't read mystery method so I can't say something about it, I have read 60 days challenge and it sounds fair, will be trying it out to overcome my fear of rejection.

I have heard about the BadBoy, but his website is down.. IDK why but it seemed to actually be a really great inspiration for me to study his materiale but I can't find it anywhere...


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Thanks and I will. I really need to get over my anxiety. I'm doing everything possibly possible just to lose it.

But I also know that many hot chicks which uses a lot of makeup and having a perfect body thinks a body is one of the most attractively thing in a man.

Take a look at jersey shore.. Season 1 they aren't very famous, but still they get chicks home, mike "the situation" is showing off his abs to make the girl likes him.

I can as my self say that I never had the balls to talk to one of the hottest girl in my school, but when it got summer I just took my shirt off and she came up to me suddenly and told me that I have a nice body.... She was so hot and sexy that I almost got a boner lol. Although this happended for 2 years ago. But still, I think having a sixpack and a well ripped body is a good advantage to pickup girls, I just don't know how to use it good.

Thats why I'm studying all these PUA materiale. But I still can't find a book or a method that are good for me, only the gunwitch method, I haven't read mystery method so I can't say something about it, I have read 60 days challenge and it sounds fair, will be trying it out to overcome my fear of rejection.

I have heard about the BadBoy, but his website is down.. IDK why but it seemed to actually be a really great inspiration for me to study his materiale but I can't find it anywhere...
You can make a woman want you and make her make the first move by having a great body , but this is just a part.

Yes she is interested , but if you act like a clown and don't know to be direct , confident and honest you will lose that initial attraction. It's your image and what you say and do that matters (also the way you walk , body posture , facial expressions)

Dressing in a suit draws attention from women , mainly by catching them looking at me and yes some may make the first step.

If I act shy , make stupid jokes , avoid eye contact and not escalate sexually at one point SHE WILL LOSE THAT INITIAL ATTRACTION THAT MADE HER MAKE THE FIRST MOVE.


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I agree with you Stelar

I write a lay report last week about a girl I met on Sat whereby I did similar.

I did the cyrian opener of asking her what she is up to later and if she says 'nothing'.. then saying 'how do you fancy coming home with me'. First time I used it and it worked. Maybe HB7.5

I am not sure how comfortable I would be about using the word 'fuck' . I swear more than 95% of men.. but I think alot of girls just dont like the word fuck and it gives images of someone they think is 'vulgar' , offensive or teen like. We tell people to 'fuck off' that we dont like so going up to stranger and using that word could be counter productive.

I can see you have had success with it and I am sure there is more success to be had using the same line, but I like the line I used. I just think its safer. If you say it with the full confidence and directness as discussed, then you still get the shock factor and impress the girl... just my opinion..

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Eastern European women are by far the easiest.
I'd say so far, Brazilian women are the easiest. Canadians are the opposite. Never been in eastern europe though


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I agree with you Stelar

I write a lay report last week about a girl I met on Sat whereby I did similar.

I did the cyrian opener of asking her what she is up to later and if she says 'nothing'.. then saying 'how do you fancy coming home with me'. First time I used it and it worked. Maybe HB7.5

I am not sure how comfortable I would be about using the word 'fuck' . I swear more than 95% of men.. but I think alot of girls just dont like the word fuck and it gives images of someone they think is 'vulgar' , offensive or teen like. We tell people to 'fuck off' that we dont like so going up to stranger and using that word could be counter productive.

I can see you have had success with it and I am sure there is more success to be had using the same line, but I like the line I used. I just think its safer. If you say it with the full confidence and directness as discussed, then you still get the shock factor and impress the girl... just my opinion..
Yes you don't need to use the word "fuck".

It's all very simple you don't need game.


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I agree with you Stelar

I write a lay report last week about a girl I met on Sat whereby I did similar.

I did the cyrian opener of asking her what she is up to later and if she says 'nothing'.. then saying 'how do you fancy coming home with me'. First time I used it and it worked. Maybe HB7.5

I am not sure how comfortable I would be about using the word 'fuck' . I swear more than 95% of men.. but I think alot of girls just dont like the word fuck and it gives images of someone they think is 'vulgar' , offensive or teen like. We tell people to 'fuck off' that we dont like so going up to stranger and using that word could be counter productive.

I can see you have had success with it and I am sure there is more success to be had using the same line, but I like the line I used. I just think its safer. If you say it with the full confidence and directness as discussed, then you still get the shock factor and impress the girl... just my opinion..
Yes you don't need to use the word "fuck".

It's all very simple you don't need game.
In essence it's like this.

You make a bold sexual statement > she is calm and responds > have a honest discussion about both of you ending in bed. ( she doesn't pretend )

You make a bold sexual statement > she says nothing and doesn't leave > you should persist until getting a response , I DO NOT MAKE HER HORNY , I MAKE HER UNDERSTAND THAT I AN HONEST AND NOT PRETENDING.

If a woman is looking for a ONS she will not admit it until you admit first that you want her and show it by making her understand.

The theory of "getting her horny" is total bullshit when you meet a woman. The reason she comes home with you is a logical one , since she realized you are not joking and are really interested in fucking her.

I leave the "getting her horny" part to when we are about to have sex.


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Stelar, I'd like to see some lay reports from day game.

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Stelar, I'd like to see some lay reports from day game.
In my life I have meet on the street during day time only 5 women. 3 of those ended in my bed a few days after the first date , 1 left country and forgot about her and 1 would ask me out after the 1 first date and pay for dinner and everything but when it came to sex she told me ( not yet , not yet)

With the last 2 women I was inexperienced at the time.

All that I can say about these 5 women is that even though we meet on the street , it was never a "cold" approach , it happened that our eye locked and they smiled and made it easy for me. We talked about 10 -15 minutes , exchanged phone numbers and called ( I never text) them the next day.

If you have the chance of getting eye contact first , hold it because she becomes more receptive if you decide to approach her.

If you are interested in knowing day 2 techniques , let me know.


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Stupid question but after you've used the apocalypse if she says "yes," what do you talk about then when you're taking her back? Casual stuff, like the weather, or more sexual? Is it fine to just say nothing at all?


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Stupid question but after you've used the apocalypse if she says "yes," what do you talk about then when you're taking her back? Casual stuff, like the weather, or more sexual? Is it fine to just say nothing at all?
Grab her hand and as your leaving with her say "

"ok , let's go to my place"

"ok , but we can't go to my place"

After this discuss where both of you will end up.


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Stupid question but after you've used the apocalypse if she says "yes," what do you talk about then when you're taking her back? Casual stuff, like the weather, or more sexual? Is it fine to just say nothing at all?
Grab her hand and as your leaving with her say "

"ok , let's go to my place"

"ok , but we can't go to my place"

After this discuss where both of you will end up.
Ok I mean, assuming you've sorted out the logistics and you're walking/taking the cab back to wherever. What would you do, just kiss her and touch her up, saying nothing?


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Stupid question but after you've used the apocalypse if she says "yes," what do you talk about then when you're taking her back? Casual stuff, like the weather, or more sexual? Is it fine to just say nothing at all?
Grab her hand and as your leaving with her say "

"ok , let's go to my place"

"ok , but we can't go to my place"

After this discuss where both of you will end up.
Ok I mean, assuming you've sorted out the logistics and you're walking/taking the cab back to wherever. What would you do, just kiss her and touch her up, saying nothing?
Some things should me sorted out by yourself.

She agreed to fuck you and you're on a cab with her ; make out with her , touch her , talk to her while keeping eye contact. Do not try to be funny.


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hey man, I had some questions for you. Been doing this 6 years now and Im trying to move up a level:

1. For curing AA with your "approach and go direct/apocaplypse" method, how many approaches did you have to do before the AA was very low? Does the AA disappear or do you still get it every now and again?

I find the AA is like "dipping into cold water". At first its cold but you get used to it

Though I do open 10-15 sets a night, there are spontaneous openers and not golden walk up cold approaches (though sometimes I do that)

2. beliefs: do you do any visualisation or imagine anything in your mind before going out? what images are happening in your mind, if you can recall any? Also, am I right in saying that you believe all women are already interested in you? (this is a new belief that Im taking on. I always hear that the guys who are the best always think the woman is secretly already after them)

will have more Q's but this is it for now. Im generally sociable but I need to be more direct and do more kino. eye contact is working fine, and I prefer to go out sober (always) and solo most times as better for building confidence in the long run.


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hey man, I had some questions for you. Been doing this 6 years now and Im trying to move up a level:

1. For curing AA with your "approach and go direct/apocaplypse" method, how many approaches did you have to do before the AA was very low? Does the AA disappear or do you still get it every now and again?

I find the AA is like "dipping into cold water". At first its cold but you get used to it

Though I do open 10-15 sets a night, there are spontaneous openers and not golden walk up cold approaches (though sometimes I do that)

2. beliefs: do you do any visualisation or imagine anything in your mind before going out? what images are happening in your mind, if you can recall any? Also, am I right in saying that you believe all women are already interested in you? (this is a new belief that Im taking on. I always hear that the guys who are the best always think the woman is secretly already after them)

will have more Q's but this is it for now. Im generally sociable but I need to be more direct and do more kino. eye contact is working fine, and I prefer to go out sober (always) and solo most times as better for building confidence in the long run.
1. In about 6 month of going out consistently every Friday and Sunday. It's not the fact I talked to women , it's the fact that I systematically did and said the boldest things I could come up with.

The bolder and more sexual the approach the better and more relieved you will feel afterwards. The initial anxiety and the afterwards relief diminish in the same rate until both are gone.

2. I always think of myself that I am the greatest man that ever lived. I respect myself and others do to. When I walk into that club , or room , I walk proud head up and think that people should be thankful I graced them with my presence.

Men generally avoid me and don't like it , but women adore this "imperial" behavior (standing proud and keeping intense eye contact). I never break eye contact first.

DO NOT CONFUSE THIS WITH COCKY.


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hey man, I had some questions for you. Been doing this 6 years now and Im trying to move up a level:

1. For curing AA with your "approach and go direct/apocaplypse" method, how many approaches did you have to do before the AA was very low? Does the AA disappear or do you still get it every now and again?

I find the AA is like "dipping into cold water". At first its cold but you get used to it

Though I do open 10-15 sets a night, there are spontaneous openers and not golden walk up cold approaches (though sometimes I do that)

2. beliefs: do you do any visualisation or imagine anything in your mind before going out? what images are happening in your mind, if you can recall any? Also, am I right in saying that you believe all women are already interested in you? (this is a new belief that Im taking on. I always hear that the guys who are the best always think the woman is secretly already after them)

will have more Q's but this is it for now. Im generally sociable but I need to be more direct and do more kino. eye contact is working fine, and I prefer to go out sober (always) and solo most times as better for building confidence in the long run.
1. In about 6 month of going out consistently every Friday and Sunday. It's not the fact I talked to women , it's the fact that I systematically did and said the boldest things I could come up with.

The bolder and more sexual the approach the better and more relieved you will feel afterwards. The initial anxiety and the afterwards relief diminish in the same rate until both are gone.

2. I always think of myself that I am the greatest man that ever lived. I respect myself and others do to. When I walk into that club , or room , I walk proud head up and think that people should be thankful I graced them with my presence.

Men generally avoid me and don't like it , but women adore this "imperial" behavior (standing proud and keeping intense eye contact). I never break eye contact first.

DO NOT CONFUSE THIS WITH COCKY.
Yeah, elaborate more on this "imperial" behavior. I try to do it as well. Poker face, shoulders pulled back, full erect spine, eyelids relaxed. Some guys would act like dicks around me for no reason and I tried to befriend some of them out of curiosity and they would maintain their attitude and not be very friendly. As with girls, I was sitting next to a girl on a pool table. I was leaning back slightly with my hands as support, tall posture with the "I'm the shit" look on my face. She was looking up at me saying, "Are you always like this?" I asked, "What do you mean?" She said, "Like, is this the real you or do you only do it on occasion?" I reached my hand under her chin and slid it off to the side saying, "You're inquisitive, I like that." And she was just giving me this blank stare, I don't know it was weird. And then after that I took her to starbucks to share a drink with her that she's never tried. She said, "Wow I love it! It's sooo good. NOW I like you, I couldn't tell from before."

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