You brought up a good point: smiling/smirking = cocky. I really control what comes out of my mouth to make sure it's not cocky but I still get shit and have problems with congruency because I smile and smirk WAY too much. It's not because I try to look all good and attractive, I just find shit funny and I can't hold it in - mostly because I haven't completely got over my AA. Either that or the girl laughs or smiles and it rubs off on me.

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Don't get on one knee for a girl that won't get on two for you.

Yet there is some other thing I forgot to mention and this applies not only to women.

I open with a bold statement > she responds with a bold statement > I leave on a low note ( I lose ) ; I leave on a high note ( I win)

I open with a bold statement > she gets shy > I leave on a high note ( I win ) ; I leave on a low note (I win)

Some time I don't need the takeaway. MY PURPOSE IS TO OPEN HER SO THAT SHE IS BEING HONEST WITH ME AND HAVE COMMUNICATION. HER SUBCONSCIOUS MESSAGE SHOULD BE "HE IS CONFIDENT , DIRECT , STRONG AND OPEN".

YOU CAN TALK TO A WOMAN ABOUT WHERE YOU WANT TO FUCK HER , HOW , WHEN , HER PERSONAL DESIRES , ANYTHING ... EVEN IF SHE JUST KNOWS YOU FOR 10 MINUTES. (HENCE THE WAY I OPEN AND IF YOU PASS THE EYE CONTACT YOU ARE IN)

THE TAKEAWAY AND LEAVING ON A HIGH NOTE IS TO MAKE AN IMPRESSION AND ALSO DOES WHAT MANY OTHERS DON'T ; THE MESSAGE BEING ( YES I WANT TO FUCK YOU BUT I AM NOT GONNA BE A PEST )

IF YOU SAY TO A STRANGER : "I HONESTLY like gay porn" ( and say it with a blank face he will believe you and if he likes gay porn too he will mention it )

PUTTING THE WORD "HONESTLY" BEFORE A STATEMENT OF SHOCK WILL MAKE OTHERS BELIEVE YOU EVEN IF IT ISN'T TRUE AND MANY TIMES YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO USE THIS WORD. ( remember to hold eye contact ). IT'S THE WAY YOU SAY IT.

This is the secret ... not the takeaway in itself or the high note.

WHAT I AM TEACHING IS NOT "GAME" ; IT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE METHOD TO OPEN A WOMAN TO YOU.

hahaha, I wish I lived in the US...I find american women to be pretty easy!!! and Im in the UK!!

the truth is, and what Ive realised is that both american and european chicks are easy. Its just they react in different ways and interpret things slightly differently

Eastern European women are by far the easiest.

Stelar, I really like this post and will definitely try it. It seems like the "real" way the apocalypse opener should be done. This is a really great thread overall.

I have the same issue as Chris does with smiling and smirking though. Especially when im drinking. It is definitely an anxiety issue and I find that it is more when I dont view the girl from a nicely seated power position. At this point in my PUA journey I have come to see that this natural frame comes with experience in that frame with girls, of which I have not a whole lot. Do you have any advice as to how to psyche yourself into that frame with specifically the hotter girls that I naturally would not have as much confidence with?

You need motivation ?

I will put it like this. I have had 19 threesomes.

If I were you I would be furious.

I can't stand the fact that someone is better than me with women and I'll always strive to be the best. You should do it too.

If you really want to become a "master" , then anxiety must go.

Remember : "Fortune favors the bold"

No I think you misunderstood me. My problem is with the frame. I have trouble putting myself in that power position you talk about with the hotter girls. That results in more smirking/anxiety/less self control and dominance.

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I find it very difficult to understand ... bite your tongue very hard ? ... see yourself as indestructible .Focus first on gaining confidence by "opening with a bold sexual statement" and after that as your ego and confidence will boost get into my pattern.

If I wanted to fuck a woman I never smiled or smirked.

Alright thanks for the advice man.

Stelar

I gotta, say, this is great stuff. Direct approaches is something that I have always applied when meeting women. But I never thought of something like ballsy this. Definitely gonna give it a try.

What kind of direct approaches do you use at day time that work for you ? Something more like 60yo challenge would do if you know what I mean. My biggest problem with my direct approaches at daytime right now is that sometimes I think come off too strong, and the girl will reach fight or flight and will wanna leave (moving targets usually).

I am bold in clubs with women that I just want to fuck.

If our paths intersect I will try to get eye contact as soon as I see her and with practice some will open you , some will smile , some will hold it for just a second (it does not matter) , because when she is ready to get past me I'll say "hey , I am gonna be honest with you , I find you attractive (never say beautiful ) and I want to know you. ( be more casual and relaxed , but with a great body posture)

Never break eye contact and don't smile (unless she smiles first)
Ask her general questions about herself and at one point introduce yourself , don't rush the process and let her speak.

After she is warmed say "should go out sometime" and no matter what she says at this point ask for her phone (not phone number) and give yourself a call.

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You should use this same approach when she is with friends and parties ( bars ) and it's even more effective when she knows that others heard what you said , and in this case you should ask questions about herself and never talk about yourself and don't forget about sexual escalation ( verbal and trough touch ).

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During day 2's you must be ( sexual and calm ) talk more about herself and then say something about her ass or hips

Example : "Do you know what was the first thing I noticed about you ?"
"No"
"Your sexy ass , you look just like a pornstar"

then go back into normal conversation , then go sexual again and so on.

Watch videos on youtube with "Badboy" , I agree with 90 procent of what he is saying.

I was thinking what type of guy I'm actually are.. And I'm actually 100% like you to be honest. I don't wanna talk to a girl at all, I just wanna fuck her. I have been searching videos on some people saying this, but to bad there are no one. Would be good to see someone do what your saying here. I knew nearly 70% of all the PUA stuff to start with, and I'm still learning the 30%. I find this thread a good thread but I'm worried about getting rejected, I'm only 18 and the clubs I'm in are very loud, and I don't have special good guts to enter the dancefloor.

The dancefloor is in middle and right around all the corners there are tables and a bar in middle.. I find this club being good but I'm affraid of doing this because I have AA..

How can I overcome it? I was with a trip with my parents to sweden, I actually approached a 3set with bikinis on the beach, it was very fun, even though I had anxiety.

And now I'm on a place for 4 more months where I can do what I want to because the city is far away from the city I live in.. So I don't care about the rejection, so I will just use my 4 months on getting over my anxiety by doing what? Could you give me a hint? I don't have my own house here or car..

I have said this before I had AA before and the only way to overcome it is to do it anyway. At first don't focus on my pattern .. focus in saying "bold sexual things" to women. By doing this consistently AA will be gone (focus first on being direct an gaining confidence then go into the specifics)

Next time you go to a club use the APOCALYPSE OPENER (use it with a straight face and hold eye contact). DO NOT FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL LAY , BUT FOCUS ON ELIMINATION AA AND GAINING CONFIDENCE.

Once AA is gone you will be able to do what you desire.

Does it always requires to do it with girls?? I mean like, I'm going to the military next week, and we gonna try something very scarry.. By this I mean I got anxiety to do one of these stuff we are going to try.. So if I do it, won't I overcome my anxiety??

I will try to approach girls on daygame, if I get over my anxiety on daygame, will it be gone on my nightgame too?

Oh and btw, this video just made my day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXJODd4 ... re=related

This is a really good question.

The only way to overcome fear is to do the thing that scares you , not just once but in a consistent manner.

Your AA isn't related to day or night approaches is related with women in general. You will feel better around women in general.

Doing "scary military things" will have an impact on yourself and I do believe it will have an impact on your AA with women.

Men that are in gangs , mobsters and men with risky jobs will never complain about not having the balls to talk to women.

Do it. It will be a positive experience.