WOT IS THE METHOD THAT CONSITENTLY WORKS



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:12 am 
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LETS COLLABORATE IN FIELD TRUISMS ABOUT PU , AND HOW TACTICS, ATTITUDES, AND BELIEFS SERVE US AND DONT SERVE US IN THE PU

INFIELD TRUISMS , R techniques, inner or outer that work 100% of the time, or mostly consistent, because a consistent sarge will allow us to consisntely pu

for eg,
kino on opener, always works,
compliment openers, dont yeild results on hb>5

this requres deep thought on all of our successfull sarges, where we escalated kino, and closed

for the guys who have absolute certainty of wot it takes to pull consistently, we need to think about why it is working

wot r the inner beliefs u have before sarging
wot is your lifestyle
does routine stacking really get us the girl, or the beliefs behind it

if we combined all of our infield knowledge into field tested truisms, we could eliminate all the bad mindsets and behaviours, and use the extremely positive behaviours, to make a massive unstoppable, sarging machine. lol

the question here is WOT WORKS

doing wot works is still a form of supplication, cos we will do anything to pu, but this seems the main way to success

wot is it that all the pu gurus, and people posting LR r doing that us amatuars r not seeing

1. opening indirect , mostly always works, always hooks , but
u must have inner issues sorted first
2. negging doesnt always produce results of target being devalidated

wot r your field tested 100% mindsets, beliefs , attitudes, techniques

3. direct has mixed results, sometimes works, not consistent
4. certain routines mix, order of routine escalation, for eg

open with indirect, stack to dhv story, or neg, or no neg, or roll off, kino
wot is the ultimate correct order , of course each must be calibrated to each situation, but there r controlled variables mostly

all clubs consist of groups of ppl , dancing, standing or sitting
possible routine stack logisics, could be identified and made a consistent formula for success. this sounds like a science experiment
but really the pu theory is based on evolutionary behaviours, does anyone disagree about mm theories, of attraction and such

5. attraction is all that matters, she will do anythng if shes attracted?

When u look back at all of your sarges which ended in lays, if not that far then at least a kiss close

wot was the underlying similarities in all of these sarges

1.was it indifference to the outcome
2.not actually , truly being into the girl
3.was it showing lots of iods
4.was it being a massive challenge
5.was is being really nice, and winning approval
6.was it winning over friends first , then moving to target
was it showing active disinterest
was it consistent roll offs
was it the traditional dhv spikes
was it negging like crazy
was it cavemanning
was it frame control
was it extremely long amount of comfort, ie friends first
was it social proof

lets think about which factors r causing the results, mainly attraction in her, that make her desire increase


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:57 pm 
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As you know it's hard to make a concrete list and say okay all these items 1-20 will always work. First of all, we all have very different styles. Then we have the obvious that women are all different, but similar. You have venue differences and more.

A good friend of mine on the forum, KinoEscalator, can open well with saying anything from, "If I wasn't gay you'd be so my type." to "Is that a frozen turkey in your purse?" He can make it work because he is good with his body language and frame control. To continue there are some nights I don't neg, don't use false time constraints, I kino immediately, or wait to kino until later. A good PUA is always experimenting.

Its not about making some master list for what works. Those already exist in the form of books by Mystery, Style, David DeAngelo, Ross J, Brad P, Juggler, and others. Take the bits and pieces you like from each style and make your own. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:09 pm 
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SPELLING CONSISTENTLY WORKS

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say wot? :lol:


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i think its a very good point, everyone is different but there must be some thing behind all of this that clicks an order...


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SPELLING CONSISTENTLY WORKS

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say wot? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How about "Hi."

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Paying attention during high school english is also very helpful. :wink:

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