For those who want to know the backstory its here:
skinny-guy-insecure-to-f-vt187144.html

If you cant be bothered to click the link, thats fine the subject pretty much explains the main point.


Last Friday (this happened two days after the original post) I went to the girls house and I lost my virginity (did forget to state I was a virgin in the original post)
I am 17.

I don't really know how to write a lay report yet because I'm fairly new to the forum.

Lead up:
- so earlier that day i found that i wasn't busy during the evening, so i sent her a text saying "I'm free tonight, take me on an adventure" so she agreed. After long exchanges of texts explaining that the date had to be entirely planned by her, she set it up for a tour of the area of which she lives in and a visit to a supermarket
- when we met up it was around 10pm-ish, she kept to her word and showed me around her area (it was really derelict, nothing special), she told me there was an interesting industrial estate, so we decided to walk towards it
- as time went on I had gotten hungry (one of my downsides, I tend to eat a lot even though I am skinny), so I asked
"do you have any food in your house?" she replied "not much" but we agreed that I can make use of whatever food she had in her house -- to my surprise our course never changed, and she admitted that she expected us to go to her house anyway and that the industrial estate was a diversion
- we arrived at her home (at around 1am) and her family were still at home, i did what i said and cooked food, her parents agreed for me to stay and they retired to go to sleep upstairs.
- we were left downstairs to watch tv

Her House:
- not going to bore you guys about what happened every minute, but progress was relatively slow, we watched tv until around 4:30am (yes, i defined the term; taking your time LOL) however during the second half we were spooning on her couch
- i told her to turn all the lights off and keep the tv in the background, around 10/15 minutes later we were making out, it stopped for about 20minutes again and returned to watching tv, I told her "what do you want to do" and she replied "i don't mind, but you're being boring" thats when it hit me that i wasn't there to watch the fucking hannah montana movie so i said "fine, ill be boring" and then moved her underneath me and i started sucking on her neck/continuing to make out
- as that was happening i took of her top, and i slowly slipped my hand into her bottoms, she held my wrist to stop it moving down further and she asked "have you done this before" i was honest and i said "no" she let go and i moved my hand down slowly to see if she would protest again, but she did not, so i fingered her
- after that episode we stopped for a while to take a break (to me i thought it would be over now), she initiated making out again, due to this i knew i had to venture further into unknown territory, i told her to take all her clothes off, and we continued to make out.
- I did keep my t-shirt on, I was reluctant. However after getting her completely naked she did say "how comes I'm the only one undressed" so it was understandable that I had to take my clothes off (I was wearing about 4 layers) i was in boxers

Virginity lost:
- I whispered in her ear "are you ready for this?" she was like "for what" so i replied "you know what I'm thinking. she didn't reply back she just continued to make out, i saw this as a sign of her saying no politely but i wasn't down and out, i asked her the same question again but added extra "--we can do it another time" she responded "you cant be too sure that you'll get a next time", this is where i realised I'm there to fuck, because she agreed to let me come over in a months time when her family are away on holiday
- I said "okay" and pulled down my boxers and she asked do you have protection, i said yes of course. I put it on and she pulled me down and asked if i had done this before i said "no, have you" she replied no as well, so with that in mind i decided i had nothing to live up to
- i put my penis inside, i won't go into details.
- i told her to turn over and face away (like doggy style) but i couldn't find her vagina, i could easily find it with my finger, but each time i used my dick it wouldn't go in far? it would sorta 'slip out', i don't know.
- after a while of 'finding where to put it' i couldn't get hard anymore, is that normal? like for your dick not to get hard even though you're horny?
- i knew she wasn't satisfied yet so i told her to change position again and lie on her back, i must've fingered her so much because she stopped making out we me and started breathing heavily, i looked up and her eyes were rolled into the back of her head, i didnt really understand what was going on at the time (yes, amateur i know LOL) so i asked her twice if i should keep going, she said yes, then after a while she was sort of shaking i stopped and i asked if she was alright and if i should stop, she said yes to both. I took out my fingers and they were literally dripping.

After:
- we sat down and caught our breaths, and watched a shitty game show
- she placed her head on my chest/shoulder and wrapped my arm around her, and she said "I'm still expecting you to come over and cook for me" (when her parents leave).
- she walked me back to the bus stop and i made my way home, i arrived at around 8am
- she admitted that after i sent a "take me on an adventure" text, she assumed it was sexual. I of course did not mean it intentionally but it funny how things turn out.

So, long story short:
- lost my virginity
- invited to come over again

I want to say that this forum has helped me a lot, especially the advice on the original post.
Thanks again guys, and if theres any advice you guys can give it would be really helpful.

amazing lay report!!

i'm loving the story! and that part where she said "how come i'm the only one undressed" i have gotten that a couple of times haha

the part of not being hard when you are horny. it happens to everyone. i'm not 100% but i believe it is because you are nervous. thats why when i go out to a club or when i expect to get laid i take with me a rhino 7 haha just make sure things are all set in stone and for sure you are getting laid before you take it because you will be hard for about 3 or 4 days straight. and they are pretty expensive

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Thanks man! ahaha, glad you enjoyed

Nice work man, as for the dick not working sex is more mental for a man and you have to stay in a zone in your head or just not think at all because thinking is your enemy in the bedroom it's all about feeling what's going on and by the way you made her come that's what the shaking was after fingering her... Look more into it there are heaps of books on the subject of making women come and you'll realize what you did right and be able to do it every time, in my experience there is no better feeling than giving your woman an earth shattering orgasm before sex I prefer using my tongue though it's already lubricated and easier to regulate pressure.

Next time get her to lend you a hand getting it in if you're having trouble getting it in.

Mental images can help you get hard, but it's also partly a mechanical response to friction. With condoms (unnatural barrier) your skin does not feel what it was made to feel.

One of the last time's I couldn't stay hard after I came in a condom with a girl even though I thought was really sexy. The only work around is to take pills or rest.

Hey Man,

Congrats on your loss (of virginity)!

If you don't mind, I'd like to pick some things apart, from what you said. I think it'll help you in the future. Though I'm new to the community, after being married for 7 years, I've got quite an array of sexual experience and I noticed things you said that I can offer tips on to help you out next time.

By the way. I love what you said, "Take me on an adventure," and I think I'm going to use that.
Something I've done in the past, and that I've told other people to do, that works great:

Instead of sitting around watching T.V., pick a specific movie. Hopefully she will watch a horror film. If so, pick a good horror movie. One that is A: Good quality, B: Actually Scary, and C: Intense. I suggest "Sinister," it's an emotional roller coaster. Hopefully you'll be laying in bed watching this movie. You can cuddle during this time, and do a little touching/hair play, but don't move past this. Focus on, and enjoy the movie, all the way to the end.
Instead of the awkward 10-15 minutes here, 20 minutes there, just let the movie roll into credits. Do Not get up and turn the movie off. Just let the credits roll in for a few seconds, then you can do a little bit of light talking, but do more with your hands while talking. Move into a makeout session as soon as possible; which should be immediately.
Perfect. I'm just curious why she asked if you had done this before. If you said no, then she'd let you finger her, but if you said yes; what was she going to do? Stop you? I just find it funny is all.
Whoa! No dude, don't take a break. Fingering through the pants/panties can hinder your dexterity, so I suggest doing what you were doing for about 2-3 minutes or so, and then sitting up to remove her panties completely. Don't ask questions, just do it. She'll lay there and stare at you in what is always a somewhat awkward stare; she won't say anything. The only thing she *might* say is "What are you doing?" to which you should just say "taking off your panties."

I've always wondered why they always ask "what are you doing?" My best assumption is they are trying to act innocent, possibly.

In any case. Just take off her panties, and then go back to laying on your side, and fingering her.
This is all good, but you really gotta stay away from asking for permission. You didn't really ask for permission directly, but you came close. Just don't ask for permission dude. If she doesn't want it, you wouldn't be fingering her, and she wouldn't be reciprocating by making out.
An experienced woman can make you feel inadequate. It's alright everyone feels that.
Hard to tell, but it sounds like your condom wasn't lubricated enough. Although her vagina could be dripping wet, it's sometimes just not slippery enough to let it go in all the way, so you gotta just figure it out I suppose. As far as not finding her vagina, well, that happens.
Yes, it's normal. It happens to everyone. And I know how you could have solved it. Here:
You could have solved it here. Instead of going directly to sex (which is okay if that's what you want), you could have done THIS fingering session before even going there. You see, at this point you were really concerned to make her enjoy herself, which is a good thing. The thing is, though, that if you do this for her, you will naturally get a raging erection that cannot be stopped. Your brain just has to be into the moment. Let her pleasure turn you on, if that's what you're into. There's a few things going on. One, you're nervous so your erection may go down some. Two, you have that condom on and it can reduce an erection. But I think the big thing here that stopped it for you was your concern for her comfort.

Also, don't ask anymore if you should continue. Second, don't ask if she's alright unless you actually think you hurt her. Even at year 7 of my marriage, sex with the same woman all the time, I would occasionally ask if she's alright, but only if I thought I accidentally caught a fingernail, or it felt like I actually hurt something. 99.9% of the time, I was wrong, and she was just moaning.

The moaning almost always sounds like pain. They also recoil away from your hand which can seem like pain at first, but trust me it's not. Also, when they cum, they will recoil and sometimes say "stop stop stop stop stop", it's not because it hurts; it's because it's too intense for her. She has WAY more nerve endings down there than you do, she can feel a lot more pleasure, to the point where she can't even stand it.

Just remember: She's in bed with you, she's comfortable. There's no reason to worry about her comfort.

About stopping. Don't stop until you are done. She can fuck all night and still be wet. You should be generous if you wish, and try to get her to cum. If you do that, she won't care how long you go after. Some girls just won't cum; it's their fault, you are responsible for your own orgasm. If you want a girl to cum, just make sure she cums first, then you can at any point you wish. You could go for seconds after that, and she won't care. Or you could go for hours after that, and she'll love it.

So my main tips here are:

[*]Don't ask for permission
[*]Don't ask if she wants you to stop
[*]Don't ask if she's alright
[*]Do finger her and get her worked up
[*]Continue to finger/etc if you are not erect yet; it will happen. Play voyeur for a little while and bask in her pleasure.

This sounds like a stupid comparison. But why do you pet a dog? The dog loves it because she is getting scratched. You love it because you like watching the dog get pleasure. It's mutually beneficial.

With experience, you'll be able to play on her erotic emotion. For example: Say you're fingering to get you and her worked up, and you realize that she's about to cum. Some girls will tell you, some won't. If she tells you, that's great, because you can keep going for about 5 more seconds, and then abruptly stop. If you want to make a girl go totally apeshit, get them close to cumming, then pull away and give her a 5 second rest. Then go back, and it'll take her another 30 seconds to get back to "I'm about to cum." Do this two or three times, and she'll start literally fucking your hand with her hips. At this point, you may as well just fuck her. And when you do, watch out, because now she'll be on a mission for her to cum. Just don't let her. If you can control when she cums by denying her that, then you can start timing it so you can cum together; and that shit is about as intense as it gets.

Also! Fucking a girl from behind is great, and it can be really sexy. But you need to remember that your dick has a harder time hitting her G-Spot in this position, and therefor she may have a harder time reaching orgasm, so she may get bored. This isn't always true, sometimes they're so worked up that any touch could make them cum. Sometimes you find that perfect from-behind position where she is able to work it for herself no problem.

I'd bring her back for seconds. She probably will, because it sounds like you made her cum, so she'll want more, and now hopefully you'll be armed with more information about the situation. You did say you got an invite back, so there you go; she'll want it again. She knows your generous, which is good, so now it's time to step it up a notch and start playing with her sexual needs.

Hope I could help, some.

Thanks man, will do. I'm seeing her again later this week so hopefully I can improve.
All of what you wrote was great stuff (I didn't want to quote it all because it'll be too much haha)

Thanks again
-Slugger

You'll definitely improve man. You didn't do bad at all; the fact is that you got laid and what you wanted, and that's the biggest thing to look at. Everything after is just technicalities. Everything that I said was really just nit-picking little things I noticed.

Sure, you have improvement, but it's too be expected, and you will improve, and so will she. Whether or not you plan on actually dating this girl is beside the point; the more you have sex, the better you'll become at seeing those little signals. And the more you have sex with the same person, the more you learn each other's trigger spots.

Good job man!