I’d like to share something with the list which I’ve been working on for awhile. It’s getting me a bit of a reputation in London for regularly scoring same night lays almost every time I go out. Although I think the majority of my recent successes are due to calibration (i.e. just knowing instinctively which girls will leave with me same night) I’ve also been experimenting with an SNL process which seems to be pretty solid.
I’d like to share something with the list which I’ve been working on for awhile. It’s getting me a bit of a reputation in London for regularly scoring same night lays almost every time I go out. Although I think the majority of my recent successes are due to calibration (i.e. just knowing instinctively which girls will leave with me same night) I’ve also been experimenting with an SNL process which seems to be pretty solid.
I was never particularly impressed with the 8 hours till you fuck her MM ideas which some people support. For one, I’m fucking impatient, and for two, I knew that some of the naturals I’d met regularly got girls in less than an hour, often fucking them in the venue. They’d tell me stories about how they woke up in the morning next to some girl and they didn’t even know each others’ names…not because they forgot, but because it just never came up. They’d just say that the whole thing happened so fast that both of them just got caught up in it and had to fuck…
This post is my breakdown of the process by which these super fast lays happen. This is exactly like normal game, but on a dramatically reduced timeframe. The rewards vs. time spent are much higher, and the only down side is that you don’t have the option to make many mistakes. This is mainly due to the fact you are making some big short cuts.
The perfect approach would go something like this:
Walk towards a target girl. Get eye contact and mouth ‘hey’ when you are about 3/4 metres away. Make sure you smile. You could probably skip this step, so if your already approaching a girl and she doesn’t see you, carry on as if she did.
Close the distance between you and hold out your hands for her to hold. Once she holds them, pull her into you and move her around for a while. I’m a shit dancer and I generally do a fast waltz type thing which involves lots of small circles and basically spins her around quite a few times. I really don’t think what you actually do matters much, it’s more about leading her and being dominant as well as moving her enough to disorient her slightly.
After a minute or so of that, start grinding with her. Put your hands on her waist and squeeze her ass from time to time, also let your hands wander deliberately over her whole body.
Once you have been doing this for a few minutes, get her pushed up against a wall or stationary object and start kissing her. This should be full on kissing with tongues preferably. Do this right and she will become very attracted.
After a few minutes of that check for logistics. Find out who she’s with, what her plans are for later, etc. If she’s with a group this is the point where you have to meet them to see if any of them will try and cock block.
To soften the harshness of just blatantly asking logistics questions, intersperse them with kissing and “you’re cute/sexy” or whatever you feel fits.
If you get a positive vibe and logistics questions answered well (i.e. she’s with some friends who like you, no plans for later, etc.) take her to a quiet part of the venue. I highly recommend looking for these parts of the venue before hitting on any girls…
In the quiet part of the venue you have one of two options, you can go straight for the extraction after a bit more kissing OR you can start qualifying. I recommend qualifying because at the end of the day you want to make sure that your same night lay isn’t going to be shit and there are always other girls in the venue…
My most recent conversation at this stage went like this:
Me: Come with me upstairs to sit down HB OK. Me: So are you good in bed? HB
>HB starts testing me for 5 minutes, and after I ask her if she wanted wants me to leave (I really was prepared to walk) she says that we can go back to her place, but we’re not having sex…etc. After about 5 minutes walk to her place (with her testing me the whole way) I fuck her almost immediately on getting in the house. Total contact time about 15 minutes.
This type of method is a very quick way to weed out girls who will not fuck the first night. It’s very efficient. You could run this on 5 different girls and if you get to the isolation stage with more than 1 you will almost definitely fuck somebody. Obviously it’s best not to do this with girls you don’t want to fuck, and hopefully you’ll all be beyond “warming up” on the unfuckable ones.
The only thing to keep in mind is that once you start this approach, you have to be committed to escalation 100%. If you get a positive reaction to the “hey,” you can likely fuck the girl same night if you don’t act weird, get unlucky with logistics, or fuck up the sexual vibe somewhere along the line.
Two things to remember ALWAYS. These apply here ESPECIALLY but are obviously general rules for any PU.
1. Do not look to the girl for signs of approval. If she is still being compliant she approves.
2. Do not hesitate at any step. Especially not when it comes to physical contact. If you hesitate it will creep the girl out and she will drop the sexual vibe.
I can’t over emphasise the hesitation point enough. It’s definitely better to do something she doesn’t like and have her tell you to stop than to hesitate.
Given that this whole PU from meet to sex should last less than 30 minutes, depending on logistics, it should be one of the easiest ways to get laid from bars and clubs.
The only caveat with this “method” is that you will most probably get tested a lot. Expect this, because the girl has to make sure your not a psycho and is about to put herself potentially in danger with a random guy. Just act cool and ignore/deflect any questions and you will get her, no problem. Here are some examples from last night.
HB: You only want to use me for sex don’t you? Me: Did you bring a coat/bag or anything else with you? HB: You know we aren’t having sex right? Me: Absolutely, I already told you that…and anyway I prefer cuddling HB: How many girls have you slept with? Me: I don’t know I lost count after 20.
I used to tell stories to occupy their logical minds while walking them back, but I think that allowing them to test you and passing each test is actually a better way to go. If you do this, then when you get back to the house they will give you much less LMR. The reason why they are testing you is because they know what they are about to do. The more tests you pass the less likely they are to give LMR.
Although this is an SNL model, if you get a bad answer to the logistics questions you can always just isolate, get her number/set a date, and then move on to other girls. You should still be sub communicating all the right things so it will likely be a very solid foundation for the next time you see her.
I had a few guys ask me what my success rate is with this and I’m happy to say that my personal results are great, but it’s really a pointless question. It’s like asking how many minutes do I have to wait till I can kiss a girl. Bottom line, I don’t know how many blowouts you are personally going to have to go through till you can pull this off consistently. Some guys will do it the first time, some will never do it. Are you a quick learner? Are you going to be able to take the feedback from the blowout and improve? How much behavioural flexibility do you have? The variables are endless.
The only answer to how long will it take to get this working is asking how long will it take for you to be comfortable doing it.
For my personal results, last Sunday I walked into a venue, looked around for isolation spots and found a few, then went onto the dance floor. As I was walking down the stairs to the dance floor I mouthed “hi” to some girl dancing. I was fucking her in her house 15 minutes later. That was the first girl I approached in the venue. I’ve had nights where I’ve had to open 5 girls before I found one with good logistics, and other nights where it was much quicker.
What I am trying to explain is that just because I can do that doesn’t mean that will be the way it is for YOU.
I’d say anyone could get very good consistency using this method BUT you have to be very comfortable doing the process so fast. A lot of guys will read this and think, how can this work, there’s no comfort or rapport or whatever…the problem these guys face is that THEY need these things in order to feel comfortable, not the girl.
To do this successfully, you need to feel really comfortable escalating very fast. The method assumes rapport and comfort, so you also have to be able to act like both these things are already there. If you’re not comfortable, you will either get blown out because you lack the right vibe, or you will revert to your standard game because that is your habitual behaviour.
I’d say my game is based on having spent a lot of time developing three things:
1. Behavioural flexibility
2. Calibration
3. Smoothness/vibing
I can see who things would work on, and instinctively get a feel for the right kind of approach. The way you get that is by trying lots of different ‘methods’ and going through the pain period of blowouts until you get them working for you. Everything works, the only question is can you make it work FOR YOU.
A lot of guys get a system which works for them and then just keep using that system. I’m literally obsessed with efficiency and self improvement so I’ll try lots of different things. Even now I’m currently trying to push the boundaries of what I can do and I’m going out every weekend trying new things which don’t always work.
As a result of focusing on PU in a borderline obsessive way for almost 7 years I’ve got to a point where I can do some things very well. Having gone out and done these things over and over again I’ve come to the point where I can see things other people can’t see, and because of that, I can do things other people don’t think they can do.
What I’d suggest if you like the sound of this process is you forget about every question you have, remember the basic structure and go out and properly try it. Doing it 10 times irrespective of outcome will answer every question for you much better than I can.
Anyway I’ll look forward to hearing what you guys think of this and also how well it works for you, so do let me know if you try it out…
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