A friend of mine and I gangbanged this girl we picked up at a gay bar. Notes on the lay are below.

Key notes for lay:

- Super non-needy attitude. Urged her to meet the tranny and left her alone with the tranny. Seeded with the idea that me and Johnny are hungry and we're trying to get food. A lesbian was also trying to take her home by directly stating to her that she wants to fuck her.

- She said to me "I am not going home with anyone tonight" I agreed that she really shouldn't leave with anyone.

- She asked me what I am doing later. I say we're going to go to Appollos on campus to get food. And that We're gonna have gay sex afterwards so she can't come home with us. She immediately starts chasing after me after I say this. She says: " Get me outta here... Everyone here is trying to get me to leave with them and go home with them." I het her hand and start leading her out at the same time social proofing"

She keeps urging that we leave so I signal Jonny to come out and we all bounce to my car.


Anytime she mentions going home alone, I tease her about me and Jon having gay sex and that she just wants to watch us. She's perverted.

Sexual frame: It sucks how everyone there is trying to get her to come home with them . They're so needy. It's like mental rape.

Sex frame: I hate how everyone is judgmental in bars . In straight bars, theyre judgmental against gay people and insult them. But in gay bars, straight people are judged for being str8 and are treated unwelcomely.

A lot of pushing her away in the car ( teasing her sort of way) example: she said she's hungry so after she eats she's going home. I tease her and push her away for trying to turn us str8.

Apollos I seed to go to my place ... Pet panda... Show her pics... I tell her that if I let her meet the panda, she'll keep her hands to herself and won't molest it. And that she shouldn't try to feed it or it might bite her fingers... Order was to go so immediately go to my car and tell her that we should eat at "the lobby" ... ( lobby of my place)

She gets texts from a fuckbuddy presumably... And gets a call from him/her. Meanwhile I discuss with Jonny in a loud manner so she can overhear. Dude I don't give a fuck what her plans are. If she goes around telling everyone I have a pet panda I could get evicted. When she gets off the phone she's at the brink of going home but is really wanting to meet the panda too. I turn it around and ask her..." can u keep a secret? She says yes. Are you discreet? Yes.... U sure?.... Yes... Okay if I let u pet my panda you cannot tell anyone about it living in my apartment. If anyone finds out I have a panda as a pet I might get evicted.

She gets in the car... We go to my place... Get inside my place... I show her the stuffed panda... And let her play with it... We start playing spin the bottle and hand over from there. Shots all around and then Johnny goes in bathroom with her first ... Make out hand job... Me next... Make out .... Fingering pussy. Sucking neck ... Spanking.

She has to piss... I sit on bed with a lil space between me and Jonny... Tell her to come sit between the two of us... I Start making out with her. I signal Johnny To start physically escalating cuz I am going towards sex at this point sucking her tits and shit... Etc etc... It gets To the point where I'm fucking her while he gets a BJ

In all cases of same night lays that I have had... I didn't make out with target in the bar. I showed disinterest and role reversal ... Told them not to even think about having sex with me or my buddy.. Lmr... You're an adult and you should do whatever youre comfortable with. While escalating... We can't have sex ... Because I'm gay and I hate pussy... But it's ok to play. Just don't even try to have sex with me tonight.

Gay guy frame only results in one night stands. The girl sees you as a one and done. That's why it's so easy. She doesn't attach any emotions to the sexual encounter. That's why they never return my texts .

Props on a pretty ballsy LR.

I've been in this situation a few times myself only with a particular wing because we could vibe like that and for some odd reason its summin im into, vanilla sex does get boring.

Did you and your wing discuss prior that you are up for tag teaming a chick?

Was this a lone wolf? I guess if its a lone wolf it makes a bit of sense using the more gay sex joke vibe because 2 guys going home with a lone wolf can set a fire of LMR difficulties off I've found.
Yeah its good you kinda plowed through that I mean shes just left in the car with you guys so something more is gonna happen, at this point did you realise a 3some is on? Or was that kinda last minute impromptu? Did you go out with the mindset of aiming to get a MMF 3some?

I like the panda stuff its cool and funny and its something you can kinda play out fairly long if you need to add to the dynamic? You know its one of those things you can just bring up more than once and it does a good job on a few different levels from an excuse to come back to yours to a building teasing/attraction.

Did you ascertain much from the convo?
I find girls who go for an MMF tend to have pretty good game themselfs and be sexually confident and forward, so just wondering was the convo blatantly a FB of hers?

Ok Hold up a bit how exactly did it go from chilling at yours into the 3some?
You just started playing spin the bottle right?
Then what? You drink some shots get pretty drunk and on the first spin you were like ok you and him go to the bathroom together?
Any resistance there or did it just flow?
And what about when she came out the bathroom? You span the bottle again and then went to the bathroom with her? Any resistance there?


I've never ever used something like that but ive noticed when im gaming with naturals and we pull 2set or more together they seem to try and bring the spin the bottle out and id rather then work an extraction/isolation idea.
Its opposite for me really if I don't kiss before we leave the venue then I really struggle to escalate it back at mine!
Are you always using spin the bottle to escalate?
Do you tend to switch when you get back to yours? Whats your kinda attitude and mindset when back?

-Peace

1. It was a lone wolf. Yeah. And yes... As soon as she got in the car with us I knew we were both gonna gamgbang her. Two weeks before this lay, we did tha same shit with an ex-stripper at another gay club. With her, she kinda chose me over him once we got back to my place cuz my friend was being really gropey and needy with her. We have a logistical gameplan on paper that we came up with where we could bounce a group of 5 people guys and girls to our place. It wouldn't matter. We would end up isolating the girl of our choice to the bathroom and bang her.

2. My friend recently told me that a guy had number closed her at the bar and left instead of trying to take her home. I think this was the guy who called her that night. He was trying to convince her to get food with him. Lol. She chose us over him because I demonstrated we don't give a fuck if she leaves or not.

3. Make outs validate the girl at the bar. If she leaves the bar with you after the make out ASD is 10 times more likely to go off. The objections = "My friebds are here! I can't leave them.", and "Where are we going?". Whereas a casual interaction whee u haven't validated her but built sexual tension through sensual touch like spanking stroking arms, boy friending technique (look it up on google), basically u should read up on the do Carlo escalation ladder. If I make out with a girl in the bar, I'm fucking her on the dance floor or out in my car or the alley near the bar. With that u want to get her so horny her logical defenses for sex override and she agrees to fuck right in the bar (finger her in a booth or on the dancefloor.(if u manage to turn her on enough u can pretty much say nothing and grab her hand and lead her out or in a dark club area to fuck her there.