ey guys,

Well, I promised everyone that I'd write up a lay report once I came back from my date last night, so here it goes Razz.

As you all know I'm sure, I waited for her to text me 2 times before I replied. Then I texted her "I'm waiting to be picked up from the gym, entertain me, tell me an interesting story." She then, told me a story of when we first started going out and how much she had been thinking about me. So I came back with, Thats a story but you didnt entertain me. So then she made up some fictional story about a prince and a princess lol (me and her), I found that pretty funny.

So on to the date. I texted her and said that I needed some help picking out a pair of boots. And she said sure (H) I have great taste. So i picked her up at 7.

On the way there I started out great. My attraction phase was right on. I negged her a couple times. One was I said that her nose wiggles when she smiles and it was quite cute. She was really self contious about that, and I think it worked great. I also kept calling her a blonde. A few times I took things she said and turned them around into sexual things. Like she said " My teachers so anal", and I cut her off and said "Omg your always thinking of anal." and she just started to laugh. She was really contious about that nose thing though after so that worked well. We made some good conversation and I threw in some DHV stories which included (preselection, social status, etc.). She was then telling me some stories about what happened in the past few months and we had some small talk.

On to the mall. At the mall we walked in and she wanted to go to some girly store, and I said hey hey were here to pick out some boots. So she giggled and we went to an upscale shoestore to pick out some boots. So we looked around and she said "Oh I like these". And I said "Na, all of these are tacky those nothing really here that I'm looking for". So we left that store, and we looked around for a bit. And in the stores while we were looking around, I made a point of it not to follow her like before I'd stop for a bit or take my own route and have her come follow me. We went into the disney store and she bought me a Mickey Mouse globe snow thing to put in my room (score lol). Then we were in the Lacoste store and I really like this shirt and she offered to buy it for me she said "Babe, Tell me if you like it, I'll buy you it". So that was great to, I mean I had her just where I want her. I said no of course I didn't want her spending 175 on a shirt. So then we went to go check for movie times but there was nothing available at the time so we left and went to a cafe.

At the cafe I told her about the past few months and how crazy and busy I had been , how many girls were on me (pre-selection) and such. She then asked me if i was intimate with any of them and I said I'll leave that for you to figure out, and she was really curious about this. We talked abit and ate some desert we really intereacted well. I focused on my body language and i sat back in my chair and didnt lean in at all while talking. She fed me some strawberrys which i found pretty hot. During the whole thing though I made sure that, my body language was great i was leaning back in my chair, and I was looking away with dis-interest at times. It was perfect to because the couple beside us was arguing and we were laughing and having a good time. Here she said to me "I'm so glad that I came to help you "pick out boots today" I'm having so much fun". Then she said she wanted to go to this romantic place where you can see a view of the whole town, and I said fine sure.

At the 'place': So we get back into the car, and start driving and theres this kind of dead end street that no one goes to where you can see a view of the whole city. So to express non needyness I say okay lets go for a walk. So we go for a walk and theres this part that looks like a beach its almost like a movie i swear you could see the whole city and all teh starts in the sky, and there were ducks like 20 feet away from us (lol). There was a single rock and i carryed her so her boots wouldnt get dirty and we sat there and just hugged eachother. She told me she was sorry for what happened over the past, no ones the same as you your the best thing that every happened to me. (THIS IS WHERE I MESSED UP Sad ). I said I know no ones the same as you, I forgive you its ok. Then she said did you miss me "I said yes, I did". I mean I wasnt even thinking in terms of PUA here and If i could fix this i truly would. We'll discuss how I can go about making up for that later. But after that we went back to the car and ill leave out the details for now

Great job.

Any thoughts on handling "Day 2".

Heads up: old AFC habits are easy to fall back into with an old GF.

-Hyde

Thanks hide. Yeah I know lol. I kinda made up for it though because I told her I was going out wiht another one of my ex's today which made her jelous and i know shes going to be thinkiong of me all night.

i think you did the right thing, you got that far and at that point where you've already had a previous connection, its good that you were honest, at least i think you were

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haha thanks bruvv yeah i was being honest to an extent i thought it was a little AFC though i guess i dont have to be THAT disappointed

hey great post man,

my question is, at what point during a relationship is it okay to "switch off" the game if you guys know what I mean. If you dont im talking about when does it become ok to not have to worry about if that last comment signaled to much interest etc etc

do we have to be constantly playing the game with girls? i cant say im at this level yet, but lets say I close a HB using a whole bunch of routines C+F etc etc and we end up going out gf.bf style, does that mean i have to constantly be on the ball? throwing pebbles, DHV'ing etc?

if i had to guess an answer to my own question, it would be that the goal of pick up is to become a natural PUA, in the sense that negs, C+F, DHV's are all naturally present in the way you act...and therfore there is no need to keep up the "act".

this is cool, but it also scares me?..i do plan on settling down with one single girl at one stage in my life, i hope that all this power doesnt fuck it up...can anyone relate?

you're right about trying to become a natural.

yes, you basically need to continue gaming the rest of your life.... not as bad as it sounds because the alternative is worse (AFC/unhappy marriage, etc, etc)... let me explain as succinctly as possible.

Male/Female relationships are hard. you think picking up girls is hard, it's harder maintaining a bf-gf relationship, and a million fucking times harder being married.

Don't forget why does PUA stuff works. Because it address the sub-conscience triggers of men and women that govern attraction etc. People spent a lot of time (Mystery, Style, et al) trying to figure out how women think/respond, and have formalized (?) a system to "flip those switches".

Now, to your point about being in a relationship (bf/gf) or (in my case) being married. What makes you think *any* of those switches have changed?

My problem (and most guys) is we get lazy after we get married. We enter into a marriage with the wrong preconceptions about how marriage is going to be. (sex every night, dinner on the table) And women enter with the wrong ideas to.

To keep my wife interested I still have to AMOG, I still have to flip switches (btw the switches change), etc.

I'll keep this short for now (maybe new thread in future). I've been married 7 years now, got kids, house, good job, etc, etc. But fuck if I'm not sleeping on the couch this last month. (actually she is sleeping on the couch). You know why? I got lazy, and things started to go shitty. nothing dramatic, just everybody is bored and tired and shit.

now, I'm having to break the frame and rebuild, no more AFH (Average Frustrated Husband). Problem is, breaking the old frame causes major boat rocking. and sleeping in separate beds.

It gets fucking old. The modern "nuclear" family unit will kill any relationship. People are designed to live in tribes or extended families, because sometimes you can't take anymore of your wife's shit (and she your's) and you need to hang with your buddies and go hunting buffalo (or whatever ppl did 1000's of years a go to take a break).

I could go on and on and on and on.

Yes, you have to keep gaming.

-Hyde

Personally, I like to think that the purpose of these methods is to guarantee initial attraction from a target and, if you're looking for a relationship, to maintain her interest for long enough for her to develop feelings for YOU. Once she has fallen for who you really are (techniques aside) that's when the need for strategy dramatically decreases. Sure there's an element of game to relationships, and they absolutely are hard work, but I wouldn't worry about having to continue to constantly check your behaviour like you described.