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 Post subject: Noob Summer PU Journal
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:49 pm 
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So I picked up a copy of Stylelife challenge and starting doing it. Got up to day 17 but have not been journaling and think it's time to do so.

To summarize some of my experience, it's been about 2-3 weeks since I've been back.

I'll just quickly summarize some of the things I've learned so far:

People are more friendly than I thought. It's actually a lot easier to talk to strangers than I originally thought. Most people, even if they are not interested, will at least give you some time of day.

I've gotten both good responses and bad responses, I had a number close within a week, and felt pretty good, but I also got blown out a couple times and I felt so bad that I stopping sarging for a couple days.

The one trouble I have right now is locking in to a set though. Some times I get locked in and the conversation afterward comes pretty naturally, but more so than not, I cannot seem to get locked in.

For example, I would use an opinion opener, which often would get some responses, but then as I'm transitioning into the ring routine, the girls are suddenly eager to leave. What should my body language here look like?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:00 pm 
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I went direct today because I wanted to see how that would work as an opener. I went to the mall and opened three sets, and all three went pretty bad. The first set I just approached two girls and said, "Hi, I saw you guys and wanted to talk to you because I think you guys are cute. My name is_____ (handshake)." Then I asked for their age (bad decision in hindsight). They were really creeped out and so I just excused myself.

The second set went even worst, I approached a set of three from the front and said "Hey, I think you guys are really cute and I would've beaten myself over if I didn't come say hi." One of the girls just said, "that's great, see you later." Feelsbadman.

Then the third girl I approached in a perfume/cologne shop. same line as first one. She looked weirded out, so I quickly said, "I'm looking for a present for my sister for her birthday. could you give me some suggestions?" She was nice, but her body language told me she wanted to leave, and then left.

Surprisingly though, I don't even feel that bad anymore today. In fact, I would say that was a fun experience. I totally flopped, but am definitely willing to do it again and again until I get this down.

The thing is, I get so nervous when I do an indirect opener because I'm always thinking about how to progress the conversation further rather than focusing on the conversation itself. It's hard to focus and I get this incongruence, and my eyes starts to get jittery. I noticed this yesterday and couldn't help it. When I did direct, this wasn't a problem because I was just being upfront about my intentions. Those, intentions, however, weren't very well perceived.

I hear people talking about inner game as the most important aspect of going direct and would like to develop this. I don't fear approaching sets, but I get nervous during the conversation. How do I improve?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:07 am 
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Mission
Practice threading and looping.

In field

Set 1 (HB5 and HB8)
Me: Hey guys let me get a quick opinion on something real quick. I just got off the phone with my friend, we had an argument. I got to get back to her soon but she told me to get another female opinion before I do that.
Set: OK...
Me: Jealous girlfriend opener
Set:... blah, blah, blah. She's actually just really insecure and is overreacting.
Me: I knew it. I knew it the first time I saw her, she had a ring on her pinky finger.
Set: A ring on her pinky finger?...
Me: Ring routine.

Loop and loop and loop. We talked for about half an hour. At this point I wanted to do another set cuz the mall was closing soon. The conversation was also dwindling down and so we part ways, didn't bother number closing.

2nd set (HB6)
Me: same opener.
Set: blah blah blah.
Me: I knew it.... Go into ring routine.
Set: That's pretty cool, i've never heard that before.
Me: I'm surprised you haven't heard that one before. All women know that. What u've been living under a rock or something? But I guess that's not that bad. I've met girls who didn't even know what the Cube was...
Set: What's the cube.
Me: (Set 2nd time constraint) What?! Alright I got like 2 minutes if you really wanna know.
Set: Yeah tell me.
Me: Cube routine.

The set took like another half hour overall and the mall was about to close so I left after that. No number close, I was just practicing the looping, which worked great cuz I could never transition into my routines effectively before this.

Things I did well
Good body language and tone. I felt really confident today in my inner game. I felt really alive and had all this great energy coming out of me and the girls noticed too and they were laughing and reciprocating.

No eye twitch. I always had an eye twitch before that I realized would make me nervous as hell. None today, it's like I had an inner game breakthrough. Feelsgoodman.

Things to improve
I probably could've number closed the HB8 on the first set. But I wasn't ambitious enough, or maybe I felt really good and wanted to leave on top. Either way the conversation died out a bit in the end so I should figure out how to amend that. I'm thinking about either DHV story or another routine??

Questions
How do I keep a conversation going? It was obvious that I could've played out the first set a bit more, but how to do that?

I felt really confident and good today. Maybe all that NLP and Napolean Hill material I've been reading and doing. Was today a fluke or am I really getting better at this? I felt like a million bucks today, but I'm still hungry. How do I get to a billion?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:24 pm 
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Mission: Seed and Number Close

In Field
I did a lot of sets the past three days and don't remember all of them. But there were some memorable ones.

My opening right now consists of jealous gf opener, ring routine, maybe cube routine.
The first set went well, and I definitely held their interest for the most part (we were at a café and they hadn’t even touched their food). But I never really got into the comfort building phase, I kinda was too focused on being interesting and not getting blown out. I was honestly feeling a bit uncomfortable going for their numbers in the end cuz I hadn’t build enough rapport, and they turn me down. Feels bad but I did learn to not do that again.

Another set consisted of me approaching a single target, and this time I focused too much on rapport building. I was literally like pouring out my life story to her and it was a bit gay to be honest. She wasn’t interested enough. I negged and DHV but could’ve done more of that cuz their was no attraction to begin with. Didn’t even bother with number cuz she wanted to leave in the end.

Then yesterday I decided to take a step back and try again. I did some more reading and learned that attraction must come before comfort. Neg + DHV is the key to attraction, keep doing that until you get IOIs, then move onto comfort building, and then the number. My goal was to utilize Negs+DHV until I got IOIs, then move into comfort if I could. Then if the opportunity comes for number closing I’ll take it, but I wasn’t expecting it.

During a set of two, I think I negged that target a bit too hard. I can reach the social hook point no problem (my biggest problem had been not going in with equal or greater energy). But then I think I negged the target a bit too much. I threw out 3 negs in like 30 seconds before I DHVed (and honestly she was like a 7, so that may have been unnecessary). After the negs, she literally turned her body toward her friend, who followed suit, and the triangle position was lost and I realized I was locked out. I tried seeing if I could get back in, but they just weren’t having it, so I excused myself.

At this point I was ready to leave, but I decided to try one more set. I approached another set of 2 at a café. Taking my seat as I spit the gf opener, I reached the hook point. Threw a neg at my target, did the ring routine, threw another neg, cube routine. And at this point, both girls were literally hooked (they had been facing me, but then leaned in after the cube routine). At this point, I figured some comfort building would probably be good. So I went into that, we small talked about just about everything. It took me literally like an hour total to go for the number, but I do recall somewhere toward the end of that conversation the target’s eyes lid up and that gave me the confidence to go for it. I number closed both of them.

What I’ve learned
Attraction comes before comfort
Neg+DHV= attraction
But don’t neg too much, especially if HB is not very hot.

What I could’ve done better
AA still gets me a lot. I need to follow the 3-second rule.
I get very intimidated at 3-sets or mixed sets.
I forgot to reward with my own IOIs, realized that during my last set.
Never give up. I felt so depressed after not being able to number close during the missions, but I did it yesterday (and the girls were hot as hell), and I feel like a million bucks.

Questions
How much comfort is enough comfort for a number close? What signs should I be looking for?
How do you know if a moving set is willing to stay and talk? I don’t want to waste my time opening a set and investing all the time and energy if it turns out they’ve in a hurry to get home and only have like 5 minutes.


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 Post subject: Not bad. Not bad.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:28 pm 
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Ok so on the day when the mall was about to close was actually pretty good. Those openers are the winners for a mall because girls go out to shop not get called cute. (Not trying to dis some of the other puas that do it that way and GREAT it works for them....but for me i just stick with opinion openers) You were actually good at keeping the conversation going all you need to do is get a close as soon as it starts dwindling down ask if she would want to hang out again later and get her number but DO NOT eject immediately take another minute or two of small talk and THEN leave. This will give you a higher chance of her picking up her phone.

Also, try to be specific when you ask her to hangout again ..Suggest a day and if its not good for her ask her what is good for her usually always works.


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