Okay so it was my friend's housemate's birthday night out and we were all dressed up as military figures (army, marines etc). We were all drinking, and I noticed my friend's housemate's friend looking at me (I dunno, probably a HB6 so I wasn't really interested but figured it could give me a warm up before hitting the clubs). As we ventured to a pub on the way into town she kept grabbing me and asking me to pose with her in photos so I thought "yeah okay I'll go with this" and she asked to add me on Facebook but couldn't find me so asked for my number instead. By this point the number of IOIs were off the scale! She was saying stuff like "when I saw you I was like 'Hellooooo '" so I figured I was sorted for the night unless I could find better when sarging later on.

In the second pub I was sat next to one of the birthday girl's housemates (HB7) and they were both all over me. They kept getting me to feel their breasts and pose in photos with them. Unfortunately with the birthday girl's housemate a major AFC moment came when I left my hand on her leg and she was like "what you doing?" so that was blown out of the water. I thought "it doesn't matter, we're not even in town yet and I've not had to do anything". This was merely getting me pumped up, but I was still slightly frustrated!

Another friend of the birthday girl turned up, and she was an undisputed HB9. I knew my friend wanted to get with her, so I left him to it...for now!

As we walked into town, the HB6 was all over me like a rash and kept saying pretty explicit things (basically a guaranteed fuck close at the end of the night but I wasn't interested).

I love being center of attention so naturally I was enjoying this moment, but when we got into the first club it kind've dispersed so I was thinking "what the fuck?". The HB9 was talking to quite a few people (a bit of a slut possibly!). She asked to wear my dog tag but I was like "hands off the merchandise. Are you always this grabby?" and she was "yeah" but I stood my ground. Later on she asked me to tie her bandana on but I was too drunk haha. At the end of the night when I left (I was just pissed off by this point) she said "if you're awake when I come back I'll pounce on you" but I wasn't into it. My friend kiss closed some random girl and he has a really hairy back and arms (sorry for the details lol) so I was stunned. Out of frustration when I left I completely DLV'd him (and myself) by saying something like "okay dude I'm off somewhere else - the girls are ugly here!" and the girls heard me and just looked at me thinking "what the fuck!?" and then I left. The thing is he acknowledges he's ugly so he doesn't give a shit about getting rejected so he has nothing to lose.

On the way back to my house, I saw one of the girls from our group (a HB5) and I spoke to her but was definitely not going there! I went back to her house (where most of the group lived) and she had a shower then went to sleep (without saying lol) so then I ventured back to my house (which is just a road over).

Okay so I think I'm just generally fucked off with my attitude really. When I'm not the center of attention I find it really difficult to enjoy myself. When my friend kiss closed some random girl (he's not good looking) I was just completely stunned.

Only a few nights ago I kiss and # closed a tall, slim, blonde, 27 year old (I'm 22) who was a HB8/8.5. I'm still very new to this, but I'm fairly happy-ish with the results thus far up until tonight.

I find when I'm talking to a girl the material I'm learning just goes out of the window and I don't think about it. I just become a AFC! When a girl is quite grabby I seem to remember the "is she always this grabby?" line but that's it.

In the heat of the moment these routines seem to evade me. I think because I'm new to this it's not natural yet.

I'm concerned at having to be the center of attention to enjoy myself. How can I change this? :s

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Well you appear to have built attraction in these girls quite well at the beginning of the night, but you can't rely on attraction alone to get you all the way, sometimes that can work but ultimately you need to build comfort aswell to really increase your chances. Talk about the boring stuff but in an interesting way, so instead of saying "what do you do?" say "what do you want to do in the future?" they get to talk about themselves which makes it interesting for them but more importantly they are opening up their thoughts/feelings to you in a personal way and once they've done that (providing you don't turn it all into one big joke, something I have a tendancy to do sometimes) they'll be more comfortable being around you, specifically being around you alone.

However....one thing that stood out to me there dude is you mentioned your "ugly" friend doing alright numerous times but kept saying you were shocked he was doing well because he is "ugly". This idea that women are just after the suave pretty boy is quite farcical, while good looks will certainly help you, for the most part it's how you conduct yourself etc. For example you mention about half way through that this is a huge turn off for a lot of women generally unless they themselves are hammered, but then why would we want to go home with drunk girls? We want the best right? And this is the kinda thing they'll be thinking at the time.

Also DLVing your wing/friend is one of the worst things you can do, because you never know but in a week, 2 weeks, a month, a year's time you could be in a situation where you need your wing to be on form to help distract your dream girl's friends while you isolate, but he may out of spite for this occasion, ruin your chances. Even refering to him as ugly is bad mental affirmation, because if you don't show confidence in your wing, that will damage his confidence and potentially damage opportunities in the future for the both of you. I've seen this happen all too often amongst mates of mine, a lack of support for their fellow man. We all get frustrated sometimes but your wings/friends are the last people to take it out on, by DLVing them you are actually DLVing yourself at the same time.

In my opinion being the center of attention is generally a good thing, it's good social proof especially when you're out with some women already, if that HB10 in the corner looks over and see's a group of people, male and female hanging on your every word, laughing at your every joke etc, she's naturally gonna get curious. When you are not the center of attention you just need to bide your time, hang back, go to the bar and get a drink, chill out, relax etc. Eventually the conversation/activity/whatever will present an opportunity for you to regain "control" so to speak. It's not how much attention you get, it's what you do while you're getting. 10 minutes of attention when you're on top form will do you much more good than an hour of attention when you're average.

Ok I've rambled on enough, hopefully some of what I've written makes sense lol.

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