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 Post subject: 1st Sarge Solo
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:36 pm 
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After a couple of months reading up I felt it was about time to try this out as it is the only way for me to learn. I used mainly canned material from ‘The Game’ and ‘The Pick Up Artist’. I started at Printworks in Norwegian Blue and straight away opened with ‘fight outside’ on a hen do and moved to the bar. After talking to some guys at the bar I opened a good 3 set with girl kissing girl and as a result they kiss each other on the cheek. I tell them to do it properly, so they kissed on the lips!!! Unfortunately I couldn’t take this further with the noise. I went upstairs and saw another 3 set in their early 20s, I used a Facebook hack opener which got them talking, and negged the target. I was able to sit with them and get talking after an FTC. After finding out 2 of them had kids I swapped targets which killed the whole thing. Next was Lloyds bar.

Didn’t see anything of note at first so went to the bar and had a laugh with 2 black guys after he called the bartender racist for serving me 1st. He pointed out a 2 set of 9s which I went over to open with girl kisses girl, followed by Styles best friends test. This didn’t go well as I spoke too fast and with too much energy. I ended up negging both as I couldn’t pick the target, as a result asked if I was on drugs LOL.
I moved on to Tiger Tiger and opened a girl in line with the Facebook hack routine and went up stairs with her group. Again I couldn’t maintain conversation because of the noise, so went to a quieter area and opened a 2 set with ‘engaged friend’. We ended up talking but I had paid too much attention to the target and forgot to FTC,so they went back to their friends. Now I wanted a change of surroundings so flagged a taxi to take me to Deansgate.

I had a good chat with the taxi driver to get in the talking mood and went straight in Baa Baa and opened with ‘fight outside’. The targets friend was a 7 and seemed the more interested. I tried to get her to come upstairs but she didn’t want to, I said her friends should come as well but they refused. Didn’t hang around for long so decided to change venue.

Next I headed to Missquila and opened a 2 set with girl kisses girl, but the target thought I was encouraging cheating, she was pretty bitchy, so I negged with ‘ Is she always like this’ and it only made her worse. I used the best friends test again and the target was the only one who looked I gave an explanation but she wasn’t interested. So I moved on to a group of women in their mid to late 20s sitting down. One was an 8 and she was slightly apart from the group talking to a friend who was standing. Opened with fight and asked if they were friends from uni they laughed, so I responded saying they were school friends which made them laugh more. I locked in well with the spin routine to sit down, and used the masturbate in the shower line which they found funny. I tried to isolate the target but she said she preferred it loud (I did ask her friend BTW). I felt I have stalled so decided to leave.

One the way out at another table was a mixed set of 20-22 yr olds. There were 2 9s were sat near the end slightly. Opened with fight and it started positively, I did the best friends test which was awesome as they looked twice. After getting their names I shown the target pictures of me and my niece who has the same name, after small talk I used the masturbate in the shower line which they hated, shame I had to end the night on a low.

Overall I was pleased with this for my 1st sarge. I was able to open sets quite easily and had little approach anxiety. I realised from the experience I need to watch my negs and pay more attention to obstacle and less to the target initially. Also I know I should vary my openers, become less reliant on canned material and speak a lot louder. Next I need to work more on following up openers, creating attraction and isolate my target.

Would love to hear any feedback and tips.

Cheers


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:09 pm 
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Not really sure what you're doing wrong. The material seems to be ok, but maybe it's your delivery and timing.

It's not good to begin conversations with anything involving sex. The whole point of opening is to lower their defense because you're a man and men only think about sex. With you coming in with an opener that involves sex, you are just proving them right and their defense doesn't come down.

Do you give a false time constraint before you open? I normally don't, but sometimes it's good to have one. Do you body rock? Make it seem as if you will walk away at any moment. Do you approach directly or over the shoulder? Over the shoulder openers make a woman feel less intimidated than if you were to approach head on. Especially if they're sitting.

What do you do after you open? Do you follow up their answer with a story that's related to the answer they gave you? How exactly do you do the best friend routine? How exactly do you neg? Negs are supposed to be playful and normally done with girls who believe they are the hotter than the sun and that their poop don't stink and is sprinkled with diamonds.

Always include the friend in the conversation. Ask open ended questions that don't really deal with them personally, but life in general. "Is she always like this" should only be said in a joking manner. You could say "You can dress em up but can't take em out", "I see now you're the trouble maker out of the group", "You're the bad girl huh? How many tattoos do you have". The point is to disarm her with a line she doesn't expect. It's playful, yet gets your point across.


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 Post subject: 1st Solo sarge
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:53 pm 
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Hi Mate

Thanks for the reply. I had to cut quite a bit off the report as I didn’t want it too long. Hope this clears things up.

I didn't open with the masturbate in the shower line. I only used it at the time it didn’t work as it worked well in the previous set. I think I will save it for the over 25s in future !!

TBH I feel FTCs need to become a habit as I didn't use them enough. When I used them it was normally 'Quick question/opinion before my friends arrive'. Though I think I should change this to before I meet my friends. As for approaching it always was over the shoulder or by the side. Body rocking is something I need to calibrate though I have the idea about leaning out after you speak etc.

Followed all openers with a story eg describing the fight with a boob popping out, though I agree that I should vary the response based on their answer. Best friends test something I will need to practice the delivery. If it didn’t work so well in the final set of the night I wouldn't have used it again or a bit. I used it like it was on the game but I know I need to work on the explanation at the end as it fell a bit flat.

As for Negs I’m probably going to calm down on them and only keep them for 9s-10s. I used 'Blink a lot' and 'Nose wiggles' which didn’t seem to do that much but I probably have to work on the delivery. Though negs I threw like ' Is she always like this ' 'How do you roll with this girl' seemed to have a better impact. Overall I was pleased with the night as the aim was to go out have a laugh and get talking and see how I coped in clubs on my own.

Cheers


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