I've been reading all about seduction techniques for a while and I actually did my first day approach ever the other day. Heres how it went down...

I was grabbing a bite to eat at this popular bagel place on campus after my afternoon class. I was by myself and reading one of my textbooks when I noticed this 2 set (two HB 8's) sitting at the table next to me doing some sort of project. I didn't make any eye contact, but one of the HB's came over to me and asked me if she could ask me some questions for the school paper. It happened to be on a subject I'm pretty knowledgeable about so I had alot to say. At the end of the interview she asked for my number and I joked with her about using the interview to get my number and how she uses it on all the guys. She laughed and went back to whatever she was doing.

About 10 minutes later, her friend left and I got up the guts to try to go talk to her about more than just her article. So I decided to use the sketch artist routine where I draw her as a stick figure. I go up to her and basically say since I helped her out she has to help me out by letting me sketch her for an art class I'm taking. She was a bit flattered I think, and I pretty much nailed the delivery. But thats where it started to go downhill.

Even though she laughed, she called it cheesy and I didn't really have a good response to that, so I said "sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do"....LAME haha. Then I told her it took me 10 minutes to figure out what I was gonna say to her...try hard much?

I did try to come back strong with a solid DHV/funny story that went over well, but I feel like it was too far gone by that point.

I'm pretty sure I know what I did wrong and how to improve from here, but what do you guys think?

JonnySo1o

"Then I told her it took me 10 minutes to figure out what I was gonna say to her"

Lol... textbook AFC line mate, sorry.

As for the cheesy comment, maybe you coulda come back with something like "nowhere near as cheesy as conducting a fake interview just to get my number, sweetie".

hey no apologies. your right, it was definitely afc.

Good response too.

you should never show a women that you were ever intimidated, scared, or insecure in anyway. the number one rule is to be confident, act like you have better things to do and basically to be alpha. anything that comes off as too needy kills a lot of your game. the only exception is when the girl is SUPER insecure (because it'll make them feel wanted), but those aren't the type of girls you want anyway.

a few negs could definitely go a long way, so the more of those you use, the better results you'll see. Add that with good DHVs, interesting subjects/stories and you're all set.

when she said it was "cheesy"..... that could possibly be an IOI depending on how she said it, but it can also be a shit test. a very strong tool you could use in those situations is to shrug. if you can't think of anything else... shruging is a very effective move, possibly your best friend.

i'm glad you had the guts to go back up there and talk to her, that's always a positive thing. it would have shown more confidence if you could do it while her friend was there, but that's ok, keep it simple for now until you get more comfortable. good job, keep it up...

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by Casual (Age 20, Upcoming PUA)

I'm a little surprised it was difficult for you to approach her, after SHE approached you first, and you helped HER with her school work. So the opening was done.

I suppose you could have talked about anything school related or situational from there, and been amusing and peppered her with a few negs all the while looking to see if you could "insta-date"--that is, go somewhere else more fun right then and there, or, at minimum number close for a day 2.

Get it in your mind that SHE wants YOU to talk to her. She wants YOU to ask HER for her number. Just give her a chance to get to know you first, show confidence (calibrate the amount of confidence you need to show by her personality), and move forward.

If you get shot down there's 3 billion other women on the planet!