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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:31 pm 
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soo basically i am new...and i opened a hb 8.and let me tell u the opener worked:d.SO thank you to the guy who made it.i was in the computer lab in my college today to print out something at my break.and i sat beside this hb 8 i mentioned.she didnt look at me at all and was busy chking facebook.so after 10-15 mins i dicided to try this opener but was thinking of not saying it but eventually got the guts to say it.i got my phone out and acted like i got a text message after 5 mins i asked the girl:hey i need a opinion,i have been going out with this girl for a couple of weeks and i just got a text message from her asking if we were bf/gf . she asked how long have u been dating again.i told her 2 weeks.she asked do u like her?i said well she is more like a friend to me.then she told me you should just tell her that you u dont like her.i said wow is that how u respond to the guys u wanna get away from,with a big smile i suppose as a neg.she said:what?no.and i guess she said it with i smile too.so then she told me again that you guys should talk to her face to face.and i told her yea,again i just got this text massage.so i didnt no what to sayy after thiss unfortunately:(.so i got up from the chair thanked her.asked her name and she asked mine and i shaked her hand and left:(.i feel pretty bad for the fact that i didnt number close.but it was my first opener EVER.i would like to say that my delivery wasnt bad and once i opened i wasnt nervous at all.its just that sometimes i mumble but think i didnt it this time.i was also leaned back and sitting comfortably so it seemed that i wasnt really a nervous guy but then again i really felt bad at the part i got up because she didnt really have anything to say after that and i didnt have anything neither so i prevented the silence moment which i wanna work on.so wHat do you guys think?any suggestions or opinions will be greatly appreciated:).


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:56 pm 
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please use paragraphs and break down convos

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sorry^


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Hey not bad for a first time opener. The only problem i see is about trying to get her number after you just told her you were kind of seeing someone. If you tried to get her number after that she would just think you were some sort of manwhore (i guess girls don't like that as much as we like it) since you were asking for her number right after you asked her opinion on your fake gf.

I would recommend something along the same lines like a text then an opinion question, but if you want to number close maybe make it seem like its not your gf or someone you're seeing or just change up the story.

hope this helped, good luck bro


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you should've went into a routine or a DHV story after a false time constraint.


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thanks guys..i could have changed the topic by asking her what program is she in.and then change the conversation from there.but how could i have closed?facebook?msn?


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You approached that's important kudos on that. I disagree NbBurna a little, I'm not opposed to opinion openers as long as they seem original. I use either general statements or opinion openers when I approach and both work fine but I stay away from the canned openers. You could have simply said "Do you have the same luck with these computers as I do? They seem to have it out for me.." or something that has to do with the fact your in a computer lab. I also don't think the line you used is really that bad, it makes you look like someone who is in the dating world and not a man whore. Buy showing her you are actively dating you've DHV'd yourself and shown the fact that you have options also. I wouldn't have said you've been seeing her for a couple weeks but rather just said we've gone out a couple times. Make sure you give the impression that you haven't decieved this person you've been seeing or you WILL come across as a man whore.

The fact that you didn't have anything to keep the conversation going shows you need to study up on these posts and develop a routine. After you've managed to get some material go out and test it, see what worked and didn't and adjust accordingly. From what I read I don't think you could have closed seeing as you didn't progress through any attraction or comfort levels the only thing you did was open the set. That doesn't mean you COULDN'T have anything is possible. I've had a girl I never even talked to or looked at come sit at my table tell me I was the hottest guy she's seen, written her # down and walked off. Those kind of meetings are few and far between but it is possible to not have to do any of the process, however you'll have a higher success rate and more opportunities using the advice from the boards though.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:17 am 
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Hey nice job on the opener i too am new to the PUA community. From what i understand you should have Negd,DHVd so on and so forth but i think the GF situation is great.

But nice job on opening her!


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but isnt like saying "oh is that what u do to guy u dont like"a neg.and i didnt know how to throw out DHV spikes at the moment.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:26 pm 
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Yeah dude if you new to this, You couldn't have done it better. Very good for the first time opening set. The more you approach the easier you'll get later on. Just remember to get comfortable on you skin. then you build confidence.


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