Today I faced my AFCness in its full glory. I mean this is something bad I realized how much of an AFC and a beta I really am.

So I am at my "girlfriends" house and this friend of hers shows up. The guy is some kind of biker and I was beating him for the most part but then I noticed something. "My" girl was giving him IOI like there is no tomorrow.

She had her knees pointing to him, she was holding her face with a hand and listening to his crap, she would laugh at whatever not-funny comment the guy would make, she would make soooo much eye contact with him and none with me, she was seated at the other end of the couch away from me, she was agreeing with everything the dude said, she was trying to keep him talking and continue the conversation with him. The dude was throwing all these stories containing DHV and shit. He was talking about how drunk he was last weekend and how fast he ran and how many girls he met with and crap.

Now. this is the worst part. I started to get quiet, just to create more ackwardness and get the guy to leave the house. When the guy finally left the house, I remained completely silent. Cuz if she was soo talkative when he was in, I wanted to see her being as talkative with me now. But she started playing with some book and not making any comment and suddenly she starts asking me why am I so quiet and that she doesn't care why am I being quiet.

She just doesn't give a fuck about me. When I told her I was a bit jelous to see how much attention she paid to the guy she said that she doesn't like temperamental people and that I am temperamental.

I realize I see a threat in anyone and everyone, and the worst thing is that it is so hard for me to cover it up.

Geeez, I am getting destroyed so bad there.

comment please. cheers to all.

Never be stay quite because you become more beta , you have to tell a story , like when he was talkign about he was drunk yesterday , then you tell oh my god the other night I saw to drunk guys fighting ....

Become the Alpha by getting the attention of the group.

By staying quite ,the guy onlt becomes more alpha because he was interesting and not you , you were another piece of furniture in the house.

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I agree with that. You needed to show assertiveness in that situation and get your stories out. Hell you could even make up a more rediculous story then he was telling. I personally think you felt inferior to this guy which is why you quieted down and became beta. It seems both you and your "girlfriend" were taking back by his ... "Bikerness". You need to start thinking you are the alpha... Man you are THE man. The you are THE shit. You can't let a guy that rides a bike take all the glory.

definately a bad idea staying quiet. If you haven't read The Game yet, do it, theres a lot of good stuff about AMOGing in there. Disagree with opinions that the guy submits, and laugh louder than he does. You have to make it look like you know he's there and it doesn't mean shit. He poses no threat to you, in fact, the only way he can pose a threat to you is if you let him. So how do you not let him? Show him he's welcome, enjoy his jokes but tell funnier ones, offer him a drink and when you come back, dont bring it and say (with a big smile) "Man I completely forgot, but if you still want one, they're in the fridge, feel free" Be ruthless because that is what the alpha male would do.

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Well i agree with being assertive but I do not tend to be ruthless unless that is called for. I try not to stoop to the level of a "Normal AMOG" with there comebacks. I normally only will cut down a AMOG if they as bound to cut me down... and I mean like hell bent to try and put me down. Most of the time Iwill just ignore them ... like ask them what they said, to have them repeat it...


Example.

A AMOG comes as you with a ...
"Man you are soooo gay you have watched Rent 3 times..." (I am currently studing so I have no material)

But if he says something like that.... just come back with a confused "What did you say... I couldn't hear you?"

Let him say it again... But this time act more confused and just lean back into a typical AMOG position and yell to him. "Dude I can't hear you this music is too loud." Then give him the thumbs up or something....

I mention to tell him that the music is too loud so you can't hear him because 95% of them time you will only meet a AMOG of a PAMOG (posing Alpha Male of the Group) in a bar. It will be very rare if you meet a AMOG anywhere else. But basically after the 2nd time he has to repeat himself in a cut down to you, just makes him look like a fool... and well .. the 3rd time... thats just so you can laugh at him later for repeating it for a 3rd time.

If he has to repeat himself and does... then that usually means he didn't get his point of the first time, thus... you weren't interested in what he said the first time around. I use this all the time, it shows that you are better then them as well, so you don't have to come to a battle of Wit

good strategy shaft. you guys offer such sound advice, I love the PUA community!!

thanks all, next time I will make things right.