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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:03 am 
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This is the first post of a field report Ive done, I work grave yard so the only time i get out with mass ammounts of people is on fridays and saturdays (my days off) So Ive started attempting day game at first when ever I can.

So far there is a HB8 that comes in to my work to sign in she stays for about 2 or 3 mins at a time, so I took advantage of it and started a conversation with her about manicures, I asked her if she knew where to get one and we started laughing and talking about how my nails were very mad at me right now. She then asked if I had ever gone to get one before, I told her no, she started to say that I was going to love it, she then started to DHV me by saying that she was a perfectionist when it came to her nails and so she does them on her own. Then she asked if I had ever had one befor so I told her no (later on i was thinking I should have DHV and preselection by telling her about the ex taking very good care of my nails because I was the only guy that would let her play with them). Then she had to leave. Next day I was off so when she came in she started asking the other guy on duty about if he had it done yet (because we look very similar) and he said no that wasnt him and that she would see me on monday. Monday came along and she walked in we started talking she attempted to neg me by asking if I painted my nails bright pink, I wasn't sure how to handle that so I showed her my black nails then she started to say she had purple polish on she showed them to me and quickly pulled her hands back when she realized they were blue, so i said something like I think you might be color blind, with a big smile. Theres Rumors running around about her having a boyfriend, any ideas how I can figure that out?


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Good day,

Decided to read a few posts, Wanted to congratulate you on your nice opening in a rather limited time frame.

As for the Boyfriend rumor ... (Five-O, my main Wing, will back me up here...) What i recommend is to completly ignore them. Who really cares if she does. BF come and go, you won't.

Next time she comes in, try and use the developed subject of manicure to set up a first "date" ... if she brings up her boyfriend ... just use one of my first successfull lines: that's ok ... i'm not jealous! and then go on with a bit of fluff.

Remember that telling her where and when she is going, is much better then letting her decide!

I hope this is going to be helpfull ... but honestly i've hit on and stolen girls before ... just remember you are not the one doing anything wrong .. in fact it's your duty to guarantee she is getting the best man for herself. : )

- cheers

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Hehehe, can't agree more with Boot-it on this one. Who cares if she has a boyfriend! Worst case, you'll have a field report to tell us. (by the way, let us know how it went).

Paint your nails blue next time she comes in, and show her your nice "purple" nails. Or nail... it doesn't matter if you paint only one or all of them. Then, the next time, play a color game with her... which are both great negs.

I used this line once (to answer to your bf question):
Girl: "I have a boyfriend."
Five-O: "I have a goldfish."
Girl: "ugh?"
Five-O: "ohh, I thought we were talking about shit that didn't matter?!?"
Big smile* that should make her laugh and maybe a bit more attracted to you.

And as a PUA, you should learn to pick up women before having LT relationships with them. So, do you get why we say that even if she has a bf it shouldn't matter?

You should totally think about a gave yard routine. Not just to play on her, but on many of the HBs that you see during work. I can't think of any right now...


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Hey thanks Guys, Ill keep you posted and let you know what happens with it. When you say a color game, how is that played out exactly? Do you point out random objects and say what color is that and if she gets it right reward her and if its wrong punish her in some way?

I get why it doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend and I'll try that gold fish routine if it comes up. on a side note me and the other guard on shift are officially competing against eachother seeing whos game is better, the Semi decent AFC or My newbe status of PUA. Since we both interact with her and are usually around at the same time with the exception of 3 days a week weve started to use her as a bouncing board. I get far more report with her because he has 2 days off when she comes in and I only have 1. More or less beside just friendly competition im also seeing how he does to see if I want him as a wing man or not.

As far as the grave yard game, Ive been looking into Mystery's Vampire thread, and am always open to other Ideas if you have any?


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You and your co-worker competing, nice! However, a good wing will never compete with you -- I know that you know this.

As for a color game... the only reason why I said to use that i to neg her a little bit. Remember when she didn't know that she had blue nails... well, take that as if she's color blind. It should be funny. There are any games per say, but if everytime you see her, you ask: "what color is this?" ... she'll eventually associate you with colors and she'll obviously smile while thinking about you.

In another event... later down the road, you might want to try this routine. http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ -- I just found this today, I'll definitely use it! It will associate colors with happy thoughts. This kind of feels like the same routine, played by an MPUA in Style's book, at a restaurant... with the "salt shaker"... I forgot how it goes exactly - see "The Game."

As for the "goldfish" answer... you don't necessarily need to use fowl language (aka "shit that doesn't matter") - depends what kind of girl she is.

Good luck and I can't wait to read your field report! :)


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Good day,

I'm happy to hear that you are going full blast on this. But i completly agree with you a good ... nay Great wing, will not compete with you but will, most times, help with the close. That is what i found, you open alone, you play your mid-game and then your wing comes in to support and help lift you up and continues to open the set while you isolate.

This co-worker could be good, but make sure that he understands that in the field you can't be competing for the same hen, since you will end up giving her way too much attention and she will feel like she is too good for both of you.

Now this rant has gone...

In order to distinguish yourself from your other Co-worker, you must associated yourself to objects outside your workplace wihout actually leaving it. For example the manicure she brough up. Now that she has been in a few times here is the routine you should try.

If she brings up you getting a manicure (carefull about steering conversation, you can navigate but don't force the subject), you can always look at her with a little look of defeat (and a smile) and say, fine if you insist that I should try such a testosterone filled activity, i'll let you take me this friday ... we'll get these fixed (and show her your fingers)

or if your not ready for such a bold move, you could always modify it by saying fine if you insist that I should try such a testosterone filled activity, next time you are over there grab a card for me ... we can make an appointment for these ... (and show her your fingers)

*side note, the underline is actually the important words here

make sure you have either a Dark blue or Black looking polish. At this point she will probably point out that they are same color ... you can reply with the color neg: wow i really think you ned to get thoses peepers checked out. this is actually navy blue ... or something or rather.

Remember you only have a few minutes of Chit Chat ... so you have to maximize.

I hope this helps ... as for your co-worker if you want advice, since he is an AFC you don't really have to worry about him ... he will probably screw it up like we all used to. Now if he does ask her out and she rejects him, before you have a chance to run a similar routine as stated above, then you should wait a few days after she informs you of said co-worker ... just to let it roll of her. but in these situations you play it by ear.

Alright, hope this helps.

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Well as you both said he managed to screw it up lol He asked her out for a drink and she declined, and said that she has a boyfriend and they are actually engaged than showed him the ring, I don't know why I never noticed it.
So today she came in and me and him were both sitting there and I was about to start talking to her when suddenly he blocks me and starts talking over me about some random bull, completely ignoring her then she looked at me and rolled her eyes like oh god now its wierd. Then when he had to take a breath I said hi and have a good day then she left.
He started to say a bunch of crap about do you really think she would go for you over him especially when their engaged? So I explained social dynamics to him that I now have report with her, she cant quite place me as someone who wants a romantic relationship or just to talk and have fun, and that this actually makes things slightly easier now because yes we know shes not available but there are chances that she has friends and if those friends arn't single they might have friends that are. I also pointed out then when the time came that maybe we met the friends and one tickles our fancy she may be alittle helpful now, she can act as our wingwoman and plus she knows I have alittle preselection due to conversations shes walked in on and even joined in on. He said he never thought of that but he didn't know because his ex's have all hated other girls.
So Now all I have to do is get him to shut up enough to build further report with her in a friendly fun manner and then create a situation where her, the fiance, and a bunch of her friends are in the same place with us. Im thinking a house warming or bbq something of that type after we fix the problem he is building ofcourse lol


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You played it great! Whenever you see that she feels stuck in a situation... cut her loose! She'll remember that you did that. Next time your co-worker speaks to her... look at her in the eyes, and smile. haha, priceless! You'll be majorly hurting your co-worker's game.. but heck, he seems like a moron for stepping you over, anyways.

Find a new wing. Wings should never try to impress or step over.

*now that she mentioned that she's married... don't use the goldfish line. It's too late.

However, use the "I'm not jealous" line. It could fit perfectly with a smile! :)

Girl: "you know I have a bf, right?"
You: "don't worry, I'm not jealous." And smile.

As for girls having a bf, 30% of them use that to reject guys and another 40% aren't going to stay with that guy forever... so don't stop to that. Show her that you're the one.

By the way, if he blocked you and she rolled her eyes looking at you... this could be taken as an IOI - for you. It looks like she'd rather talk to you instead of him. Good job.

I'd never use a girl as a wing... I tried. However, use girls for feedback and help approaching other girls though. There's a great opener right there. Open a set of 2-3 HBs asking their help on approaching girls. Then, they'll obviously laugh, cuz you just used that "opener" on them... but tell the the truth, it took every onze on confidence you had to actually approach that set and that you need some game to approach "point out another set".


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First I would like to point out that what your co-worker did was text book AFC... learn from that.

Secondly you now have 2 choices.

a) chose this co-worker as your wingman and lend him the material you read and make sure that he is open minded enough to try it out. I had a few potential Wings that i wanted to train but in the end they refused to believe in the methods, even after they saw it in play.

If he is to be your wingman, you will most likely have to forget about this possible set. As you will no longer be able to have him tag along. It is very difficult to move from Rejection from a girl to comfortable enough to pick up her friends ...

b) You can chose to hold off on this co-worker and see where this lady can lead you. Maybe she can be your demonstration of pre-selection with other girls!

on top of this, you can show HSV then your co-worker by acting like what happened was funny. Remember if you continue talking to her as if nothing is weird at all between you 2, which they are not, then she will immediatly place you on higher ground then you co-worker. On top of that if you use the nail /manicure routine I explained above, she will immediatly dismiss this as a date request, since you are past that. Tell you what, the absolute best way to play this, is the next time you are on a shift without your co-worker, you wait till she comes in.

You make idle chit chat, look down at her nails put a small look of concern on her face and just say : You painted your nails xx , What happened?

Afterwards you can say: Ah? interesting... i've been meaning to fix these, but i don't really trust strangers to handle my hands.
(do not appear to have remember what she told you, this has to come out like it is from you)

She will relate, showing IOI's and afterwards you can say:

I really don't know if i'm ready to undertake this testosterone filled activity .... tell you what, i love to meet new and interesting people, grab a few of your friends... and i'll let you take me this friday ... we'll get these fixed (and show her your fingers) ... and you can show me who (insert her name) really is!

This is crucial your intention may be unpure, but you have to sound like all you really want to do is get to know her and her friends especially.
If she says she has a fiance, you can use the I'm not jealous line ... or tell her to bring him along, if it's so fun for guys to get MAN icures ... her husband should start doing it ... for her.

(this last line would be important since she has shown great interest in nails in the past and if he shows up great, you can joke around with the guy and chat up the other ladies, if he doesn't show up for nails ... even better ... now you nkow there was a wedge put between them and you will come out looiking like the guy who likes to have more fun!)

Let me know what she says after this proposal to get nails done... and we will go from there ... i'm almost 100% certain that she will take the bait. And i have some great lines for your first ... let's call it outting!

cheers

Boot-it


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Seems like Five-O and i are replying to post at the same time ...

and I am incredibly happy that he pointed out the i'm not jealous line .. that is my favorite line for girls with BF and Married... I used it by accident 4 years ago and it was the only time before I started sarging that I got so much attention from a bacchelorette party ...

He's right about the goldfish line though, it is too late.... however the rest is still valid. Just wanted to inform you of this.

- cheers

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Im considering showing an active interest in the boyfriend. Ask her things about him like does he work out, Ive been thinking about going back to the gym lately and do you know if the one he uses is any good. I thought questions like this would disqualify me from her thinking im after her and more towards just alittle fun convo, yet also show some HV because im taking an active interest in my health... Is this theory correct or would that be a wrong move to make?

I have the next two days with her to myself with out him getting in the way, so im going to run some game on her, I considered using a ESP thread and try to guess her number or something like that also... Ill let you know how today goes in the morning


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:36 am 
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... so you are on the right track with opening conversation with her, but you never want to actively disqualify yourself.

Do not ask additional questions about her fiance. You are going way to deep. What you want to show heer is that you are your own man and in the end you are better for her then him. this will not happen if you mimick this third party.

I know this will sound a bit weird, but what you want to do is run a few of the previously mentioned activities ... while you start goign to a gym. After a few weeks of working out she will actively bring it up. Whatever you do, you do not want this girl to associate you with her fiancee. Once she does that you are done.

The best scenario is that she compares you to her fiancee and at that point you are coming out on top as a HSV man!

ok?

anyways, i'll catch you tomorrow morning!

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hey thanks boot it, Ill keep that in mind and i look forward to posting in the morning and get your guys thoughts


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Ok so she came in alittle late today so we didn't have much time to talk, but we did talk abit. I asked her how she was she said tired and I said it hit me right around 4, she said something like oh that sucks you shouldve went back to sleep, I said I wouldve loved to but I cant exactly crawl under the desk in the back room and sleep then we laughed about it and she told me this story how she used to work at a coffee shop and the boss let her sleep when it wasn't busy and she passed out on the counter then woke up with a dead leg and she mocked herself walking around with a dead leg and we laughed about it and then we said good bye because she had to go inside now.

Im thinking I can use the dead leg as a neg or cute nickname type thing now aswell as the fingernail polish. maybe say something like hey theres old deadleg, hey gimpy, or maybe even hey sleepy head? the gimpy one seems like it maybe alittle mean and she may take more offence to it then intended... let me know what you think


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Good day,

I wouldn't go with an unexplained nickname relating to a single comment you made a few days in the past, to many risk of an unconfortable explanation needed. Nicknames should come almost instinctively.

However, it seems like everything is going smoothly and she is relating to you much, much more.

To start the nickname, next time she comes in, before she says anything, you should look at her and say : "Oh ... not you again, haven't you had enough of me already!" Smile.

small chit chat and if she hasn't mentioned it you should look at her and say:

"you ok"

(now you can insert the "sleepy head" nickname if you want to start calling her that! which is the one i would recommend...),

"you look even more tired then last time you were in... " (even if she doesn't ... hell especially if she doesn't!)

"you know what you should do ... go home, change into your jammies... make yourself a cup of tea and sit in a quiet seat in your home... this will realign yourself and your energy so you'll have an incredible nights sleep!"

She'll probably say something along the lines of .. yeah that sounds really good! ...

at this point you say : "see now you are lucky, if I do that in my jammies ... i just look like a creepy man in a dark corner" (roll eyes)...

if she asks why ... simply reply: well ... you see ... i sleep naked! and smile...and laugh

I have actually used that tea and energy routine before ... was in a bit of a different scenario, but women love anything that has to do with energy and realigning themselves. And I guarantee you that when she goes home and makes herself cup of tea and relaxes for 30 minutes ... she will be thinking of you. And that my friend is elevating you even more then any of your 5 minute conversations. Hell maybe ... just maybe while drinking her tea she will have a small chuckle here and there because she will be thinking of you sitting in a chair besides her ... naked.

anyways... a rule of thumbs that i use is that when i see a really tired chick, I always talk about energy and realigning themselves...

- cheers

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