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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:53 am 
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Ok. Not sure how this post is going to turn out but im going to write it and see how it turns out....

So, its my friends birthday. We going out on the town, good times ahead. There is a chick going out with us that i quite fancy, my best mate says she'll get in with her and find out the scoop. We'll call her H. So we go out, go to a bar. We're all talking, having a good time, the usual. I'm getting and giving some awesome kino with H and I get a text from another chick i dig asking where i was. Am thinking "Winner! Two girls to have some fun with". So we all go to another venue, this other girl turns up. Lets call the second L. So L arrives, I see her but don't instantly go and chat to her. I continue chatting with everyone else, including H. I decide after a while to go talk to L. Well infact i get dragged to go talk to her like a little kid...Wasn't really to impressed by that. We are digging each other...Chatting and shit. I know shes into me by all the signs. Im doing kino on her, she's liking it, am liking...Its all good. So we all decide to hit a club. L needs to get some cash out so i go with her. I play with her, teasing her etc. Again, she's all laughs and smiles, Im in...So anyway, we are walking to meet with the rest of the group including H. As we get there my best mate is getting off with H. Now, i know im trying to get in sweet with L, there is a unwritten code where you just don't go for girls your mates dig...am i wrong? So im a little peeved at this fact. I go up to my best mate all casual and shit, laughing cause everyone else is etc. I take her to one side and ask what the fuck she is doing and shes all like "Oh oh, I got told to do it blah blah blah" and then decides to tell the whole group that Im pissed at her cause she got off with H and she's not allowed to do it again otherwise I'll get even more annoyed etc...Yeah, am really pissed at this point because shes shouted it out infront of L as well, so now am thinking L is a bit hacked because she thoughted i just liked her. Anyway, my dick of a best mate continues to tell everyone am annoyed and keeps saying to me "You hate me dont you" infront of everyone...Just making me look like a twat really. I get on with it, laugh it off to save some grace...We go to a club.

In the club me and L are hitting it off big time. She gives me her ring, and i put it on telling her it looks better on me...She tries getting it back and shitloads of kino begins. As shes trying to get it back i dance with her, grind with her. Shes loving it. All while this is going on my best mate is getting off with H and still being a twat and telling everyone i hate her and that shes going to continue to kiss her and brag to me about it...Classy. Anyway, everyone knows Im trying to get with this L girl and are seeing all the signs and telling me on the sly that im in there and shit. We chat and she says something like this (No clue how we got onto the subject...I cant remember alot of what we talked about to be honest)

L: Yeah, I'm kinda liking this guy at the moment...
Me: Oh yeah...Who is he?
L: Oh, hes kinda weird...Your height...Very similar to you infact
Me: Ah i see, sounds like an awesome guy!
L: Yeah, he kinda is i guess!

I know shes talking about me...I have a perfect oppertunity to kiss close but pussy out. Anyway...We all go dance and shit. Having a good time. My mate is still being a prick infront of everyone toward me. Its annoying cause shes doing it infront of L as well so its not painting a good picture. And then something shite happens...

My OTHER mate is dancing with L, and then....They start making out. Greeeeeat...Some fucking mates I have eh? Everyone is like WTF as he knows that i like her. I play it cool and dance. H joins us and am dancing with her while L and this mate are making out. I ask if she wants a drink. So me and H go to the bar. Apparently while we are gone my other mates pull up my mate that is making out with L and ask what he's playing at. L hears apparently and wonders off to find me. Im chatting with H and the L arrives...Wonderful. We group hug and shit and then go back to the group and dance. By this point im really not feeling it. I fucked myself over by not kiss closing before hand and my mates are just fucking me over. So i wonder out and chill in the hallway for a bit to gather my thoughts. Apparently during this L goes looking for me i think. She finds me with one of her mates. We chat in the hall and then her mate decides to leave us as he wants thinks we deserve some alone time (Good signs again). So me and L chat about shit related to whats happening...Cant really remember about what. Then my best mate comes up behind me and asks if am talking to her now. I tell her no am not, she gets shitty and says some stupid shit infront of L again and walks off. I try and play it cool with L, change the subject and sort. And I think (Cant quite remember as i was a little blotto) i ask about us and shit? Anyway, i go in for the kiss...We kiss a few times and then she says this...

L: Uhm, your not my type...
Me: Wha?
L: Yeah, if am honest, your not my type...
Me: Uh, ok then. Well I'd rather you be honest than anything else
L: Cool, do you wanna go dance?
Me: Naw, am gonna go and try and sort things with my mate (Blatent lie, i want to go home and punch a wall...)
L: Oh ok then.

She then gives me a kiss on the lips?? And a hug and we part ways. I go outside. See my best mate with another girl and then see H with my other mate who had been getting off with L (Confusing eh?). I go and say bye to H, give her a quick kiss while ignoring my so called mate. I then walk home.

As i get in i get a text from L, its as follows:

L: Hey did you sort things out?
Me: Naw, couldn't find her. She's as hard to find as you are and your smaller! Maybe my finding skills aint so good!
L: I agree! Ah well. You gone home then?
Me: I have indeed, bed feels so so inviting!
L: God yeah. We're still good right?
Me: Of course, why would we not be hmm?
L: Just checking
Me: Dun worry Miss "her last name inserted here", am a big boy. I read the signs wrong is all.

Didn't hear anything back after that....So...Guys, help me the fuck out?! What is your say? Am i still in with L? Am thinking of texting her today saying something like "Soooooo, Am confused. Am i really not your type? I think we hit it off big time last night?" or what? Insight please!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:14 pm 
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Oh man....pretty good field report. I verbally called out - "nooo!" when you pussied out of the kiss close.
I can't blame you though, it happens til you get good and are used to winning with the ladies. Until then, something holds us back.

Don't text L. Don't pursue her at all. That chapter is done now. If she reopens it again all the better....make her work for it. She fucked you off.
Worse still, she gets off with one of your pals after you'd had a thing. She basically told you she likes you. She can't like you that much.
Sounds to me like both H and L were out on the pull that night. They wanted to kiss some dudes. As girls, they'll succeed. Hardly fair when we have to put so much work in....but then we can't get pregnant.

I think you will have lost a lot of credit when you asked H what she was doing when she kissed your mate. A cool, confident dude wouldn't need to do that, and it would've DLVd you to both girls.

You were lucky that L gave you the dance and all that after this....but again you further lowered your value to her when you pussied out. It wasn't the not kissing, but she knew you pussied out. If you'd not kissed her in a teasing way, one that showed you were in control...might have been better. Even so, she'd probably have got off with your mate as soon as you'd gone....she wanted a quick snog.

You probably over analysed the whole situation. This is normal, and nothing to worry about. In time, after more of these experiences you'll do less and less of this, kissing girls will just be in your rhythm. You won't care.

I don't know why she kissed you in the corridor, but she'd already decided before then, probably based on your bad reactions through the evening, that you weren't a confident and attractive guy.
Not entirely your fault....your mates broke the code, they fucked you over. Infact I would say you did very well to soldier on - I would've left way before hand.


So, like I said, the damage is done. Treat her as a lesson and nothing more, move on, get fucked over by a few more girls. It's good for you.
And remember that when you fail it's not you they're rejecting, it's just your technique. Find your technique and you'll find lots of girlies.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:19 pm 
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Cheers for the reply weznut. Very informative! Yeah i pussied out big time, but i guess you live and learn. To clarify, i didn't pull H up on what she were doing, pulled my mate up! I was casual and danced with H no problems even after. As if i didnt care...Which after sobering up...I didn't care about!

Anyways, i have a little update for you...

So i left it, didn't text or call L. A couple of days after the night out she texts me during the day...

L: Hey. So i'm sorry i wasn't the nicest person saturday night...I definitely paid for it yesterday. How were you feeling yesterday?

I replied with a casual:

En1gma: Hey hey, am glad i wasn't the only one feeling it. I was pretty much a vegetable, was a good day! Had to drive as well which were interesting blah blah blah...

I didn't reply to her saying she wasn't the nicest person. I didn't even awknowledge it and just carried on with other conversations.

We talked throughout the day until the early hours of the morning (Til about 2am) via text. Was a good sign i guess.

Now i guess my next question would be where do I take it now? Do i act as a friend toward her, how i usually act toward her. Or do i let her know am still interested? Do i bring up other girls am interested in on occasions when we chat? What would you guys do?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:42 pm 
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Cheers for the reply weznut. Very informative! Yeah i pussied out big time, but i guess you live and learn. To clarify, i didn't pull H up on what she were doing, pulled my mate up! I was casual and danced with H no problems even after. As if i didnt care...Which after sobering up...I didn't care about!

Anyways, i have a little update for you...

So i left it, didn't text or call L. A couple of days after the night out she texts me during the day...

L: Hey. So i'm sorry i wasn't the nicest person saturday night...I definitely paid for it yesterday. How were you feeling yesterday?

I replied with a casual:

En1gma: Hey hey, am glad i wasn't the only one feeling it. I was pretty much a vegetable, was a good day! Had to drive as well which were interesting blah blah blah...

I didn't reply to her saying she wasn't the nicest person. I didn't even awknowledge it and just carried on with other conversations.

We talked throughout the day until the early hours of the morning (Til about 2am) via text. Was a good sign i guess.

Now i guess my next question would be where do I take it now? Do i act as a friend toward her, how i usually act toward her. Or do i let her know am still interested? Do i bring up other girls am interested in on occasions when we chat? What would you guys do?
First bold sentence -> Good

Second bold sentence -> Bad

This is in-congruent. When you didn't initiate contact you showed strength and value, this can intrigue her and make her a little less sure that 'you aren't her type', moreover you not chasing her shows that there might be other women with more good sense than her in your realm already, so she reaches out. You don't take the bait to soothe her feelings of insecurity, this is great, you communicate that you have options (you're not cut up about her rejecting you, so you must have an OK situation within your own world) by not taking the first opportunity to supplicate yourself to her with some lame response forgiving her. You walked the fine line between not being bitter (you were friendly and positive in your reply) that she basically rejected you, and not being a doormat.

Then you talk to her via text till 2am? You know what kind of guys text till 2am with girls that haven't invested in him? The kind that have no options. Let me ask you something about the text convo that went on so late, ignoring the fact that even having it lowers her perception of your value for a moment:

Was that conversation exciting for the both of you? Did you surprise her? Challenge her? Qualify her? Was she investing in the conversation or were you just happy to have exchange with her?

Looks to me like you made her curious with the freeze out, and then confirmed her subconscious suspicion that you have limited options.

How should you play it? I say move on to the next 50 women with more good sense that are just waiting to meet and be attracted to you. Get things rocking in your life so you don't have the time or inclination to txt with someone who dropped you till the wee hours of the morning (I don't know, maybe because you're having wild passionate sex with someone hotter and smart enough to know that you should be her type, because you're fucking awesome). I don't mean be a dick to her, but certainly don't extend yourself anymore than you would for a friend, and even that might be a stretch. That is, be warm and generous, the same way a positive, confident person is with anyone who has the good fortune of being in their sphere, and let her do the investing before you do anything more than that. Go out and live your life bro, you're walking the path to fulfillment and success, so don't sweat this. Oh and another thing:

"I'm attracted to someone... someone who looks like you"

"I know that guy, he's a great kisser" -> Caveman

Don't apologize for your desires, don't be afraid to lose the girl, love your life and celebrate in it every day.

Good luck dude


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:29 am 
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Cheers for the reply...

The texting wasnt just general chat to make the day go faster.

I negged her, made her qualify herself. Gave i think one compliment which was after a neg. I'll give you a snippit from the convo:

After not replying to a text she sent for a few hours...

Me: Just been to the gym, wise idea?
Her: Maybe. Though don't ask me as im queen of bad ideas! Blah blah blah about my dogs being cute"
Me: I didnt peg you for a dog lover. Queen of bad ideas eh? Example? Im not known for my ideas either but have a totally valid excuse.
Her: Example..going out tonight and have work at 11 tomorrow. Whats your excuse? I love dogs..where did you get that idea from?
Me: My excuse is that im a guy....we live for bad ideas. Look at choo out on the prowl again. And i thought i were a rebel staying in, nicking some washing powder to do some sneaky washing...clearly not! You look like a cat lover, to lil and cute for dogs., but probed me wrong! Blah blah...
Her: Proved you wrong how? Blah blah blah. Love cats too so you wearnt wrong! Sneaky washer indeed...sounds like a fun filled night.
Me: Oh you cannot believe how much fun im having right now, jealous? blah blah...You cant be a cat AND dog lover, tis greedy.
Her: Um no not jealous. Though i am well tired now-wishing i was home a bit! Ok well i am greedy so like both for different reasons blah blah.
Me: Is that so....well am tucked up in a nice warm, relaxing bed, mmmm....blah blah
Her: Blah blah...Bed sounds moe and more inviting.
Me: Mmmjmmm, it does. Who says i were inviting though? At least you went out, am sure you;ll be forgiven if you left.

That was the last of the convo. Reading over sounds a little boring haha. Ah well, again you live and learn. Am not really to bothered about the girl. I guess I were acting a little pussy like. Have been out and about since. Not heard from her but will be working with her tomorrow. First time we will have talked face to face since the night out. Could be interesting!


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