Hello everyone,

I started the game about 2 months back. After i started approaching and talking to girls in field, I realized bars and clubs are not full of clueless AFCs like the mPUAs often say. There is severe competition. Even yesterday i was in a college bar, there were lot of guys who were approaching girls. Sure, they didnt have PUA stuff but they were really energetic and saying interesting things. (i actually listened to a few of them). most of them didnt even seem to have any approach anxiety. they were making girls laugh and having great conversations. most of them. so its not like people are having what u do? whats ur name boring stuff in bars. even afc realise that they have to say interesting things. and even the girls dont behave like pua community says. they dont act bitchy or run away if u dont dhv before u express interest. most girls dont even have the patience to listen to dhv stuff anyways. maybe its something associated with college girls am not sure.. so it has changed my perceptions a lot..the guys who learn game as more or less geeks with no social or verbal skills at all..afcs are not nerds..they present lot of challenge..what u guys think?anyone felt this way?

There's a difference between naturals and AFC's. AFC's rarely if, ever approach, and are far from confident, they don't know what to say, and it is from this that PU developed. To help give the tools to understand what's going on in an interaction, how to demonstrate value and build attraction etc. Naturals do this without using routines. Those guys confidence and interesting topics are DHV's in themselves, they are congruent with the qualities that women find attractive, pre-selected alpha etc. By all means learn from them, as often they'll have the best material, but if you're not naturally like that this stuff will help you get there. As to the bitch thing, most women aren't many will be great fun, but some will be bitchy, especially hotter ones that have been approached milliosn of times and don't have time to waste on AFC's. Here again, PU gives you the tools to get around this. Hope this helps!

ashernshuga is right on the money.

In college towns/bars, the AFCs are usually the ones at home by themselves playing Xbox or World of Warcraft, and its the naturals that you see out hard at the bars, because they know they can easily bring a girl back to their dorm.

College campus bars/towns have perfect logistics for the one night stand.

You are an enlightened AFC...learning the skills/methods of PUA to help you bring out your natural game. Some are born with it, or have experiences in their younger lives that lead up to that...and others don't. For us that didn't evolve naturally, you can either complain and cry about how you never get girls, or learn.